Let's call things by their right names....There are two very different kinds of "Protesting". There is the real brave kind (that happens in places like Iran and Afghanistan) and then there's the spoilt-brat performative kind that happens in the West. Small-minded mob mentality in reality but recast by the MSM and Liberal establishment as a sanctified "right".
Yes, I agree Graham 100%. Today it is very tactical. No heart or legitimacy at the top. Just a quest for power by those in elite circles who are able and willing to galvanize the "useful idiots" among us.
your response exemplifies my earlier to comment... i realize university campus's are great brainwashing places where indoctrination excels, but it still doesn't actually compare to the msm, lol...
It does to some extent Yes. That's the downside of comment threads....you can't post highly nuanced responses on them. But wouldn't you agree that my comment is a valid one on the typical student protestor even if not of the exceptional one?
there is some truth to your commentary - yes... however it is not an 'either' 'or' thing, in spite of the desire on the part of many to put everything in black and white terms - good, bad - etc. etc.. nothing is like that in real life... simple answers to challenges are not honest ones...
Marching around with a sign that says "Free Palestine" is deeply simplistic. Free how? Free from Hamas? Free from Islamism and Jew hate?
We know for the Palestinians "Free Palestine" has always only meant the erasure of the Jewish state.
What else does a college kid mean by that? "Free Gaza and the West Bank from their terrible leadership that has refused every offer of peace and a state for the past 50 years"?
And don't get me started on the chants/signs for "Infitada" or "From the River to the Sea"โthese are also simplistic, as in simple calls for mass murder.
i take it you don't believe in a 2 state solution... and i take it you think one side has acted in good faith while the other hasn't... well some of us see it differently and your choice of words in the last sentence summarize your viewpoint quite well too - simplistic...
Tell me James, I take it you believe in a two state solution. Okay. So why did Hamas not take the land given them, build a beautiful tourist center, prosper, and become the next Dubai and then help their "brothers" in the West bank? And do not tell me it was the Israeli's fault. Do you really think we, as Americans, can shove a two-state solution down their throat after they already rejected that? I think that's s tough ask when 6 year olds are taught to hate and kill jews and that all of Israel belongs to them - as part of their early childhood education. Not sure a two state solution is feasible at this time nor do we have any track record given our failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps losing a war is what Gaza really needs - so more peaceful, anti-jihadist arab influences can fill the gap. IMHO, it might bring peace to the middle east. The west has supported the palestinians and looked the other way when they engage in hate, bombings, and terrorism for far too long. Peace is already breaking out between Israel and other arab countries. Gaza is not on the side of peace but as Americans, we should be. That means letting Israel do the dirty work for themselves and their arab neighbors so the peace process can move forward -- so the region can prosper. It is what most of the arab world leaders wants. For them, the Palestinians, because of their constant hatreds and refusal to make peace, are a huge liability blocking the area from all kinds of regional economic initiatives.
Being mindlessly in favor of a two-state solution, as if that will remedy jihadist hatreds, has already proven itself to be folly. When the Palestinians drop their hatreds and terrorism, peace will come. Can you say Jordon? Can you say Egypt? Can you say the UAE? Better to back those who make peace than war. ๐ท๐ท๐ท
Neither party in this war wants a two state solution. This is purely an imposition by outsiders who should be doing something productive like inducing the Palestinians to surrender.
James, using the "relativism" card is a cop-out. It can be used to counter ANY argument. I could literally paste your reply to anything I disagreed with - sounds intelligent, pragmatic, etc. But what you claim is not "honest" on the part of Graham is simply not 100% perfection -- which is impossible nor necessary. Also, please take no offense, but your accusation of Graham not being honest is thus false and thus not honest on your part. You just disagree without any elucidation. Just saying. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
david - i am not accusing graham of being dishonest... i am sure he is a fine person... i think his description is not a fair representation of what is happening here.. there is a big difference..
the same can be said for the definitive commentary too - its a cop out.. the elucidation is found in all that has transpired for the past 76 and more years - the history is complicated, but it is all their for anyone who is seriously interested in understanding or resolving this conflict.. clearly many people including leaders of countries have not been honest in their actions and intentions ... cheers..
Not really. Definitive arguments do not mean they lack nuance. I can be absolutely against abortion one week before child birth, for example. In this example, Graham attempts to segment a particular population. If you want to bring nuance to the discussion you can add something like -- what about this segment and this segment? That would be constructive and useful to the audience. Digging down on the facts is IMHO useful to all. Using the excuse of nuance to stop a line of exploration because you may not like where it may lead is, well a cop-out. Bouncing around unfocused just to win an argument, not so. That is what you do when you throw out "76 years." IMHO you need to learn how to "argue" fairly. Just saying. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
this is how the jewish were characterized in the 30's and 40's... i'd prefer not to repeat the mistakes of the past by dehumanizing people here, no matter who they are... it reflects badly on you pat..
The characterization of the 30โs and 40โs was based on personal feelings, with no supporting evidence. The characterization of the pro-Hamas rally participants is based on observation of their actions and words
I would add the nazi vermin also needed a fall guy to blame for all their stupid mistakes, and the mistakes the other politicians and nobility made over decades,
โofficers in plain clothes and unmarked vans snatching people in the dead of night.โ This is brilliant strategy for effectively dealing with these narcissistic elites who crave media attention to control their false narrative of police brutality. Arrest them quietly and when they realize theyโre not getting the media coverage, the little punks will go back to mouthing off on TikTok. Every single one of them should be expelled from school.
My big question is what the heck are the parents thinking? If my kids participated in riots like this, we would immediately stop paying for tuition and cease all support. And I would roast them on any antisemitic/marxists posts they made on social media. But then, Iโm different from these parents who raised terrorists. I love my country in spite of its imperfections, and I have a working brain that can discern truth and lies.
That tactic scared me - sounds like something we would have read about the Stazi or the KGB, back in the day (without the disappearance to Lubyanka or Siberiaโฆ).
I could also see these protest leaders responding by developing their own Praetorian Guard for round the clock protection
Yeah we're not talking about disappearing anyone. That's evil. This is just an effective means of dealing with irrational militants who hate their own country. And you're certainly right--I wouldn't put it past them to develop their own battalion of guards to subvert justice. These people are spoiled elite brats throwing tantrums for attention.
Could not agree more. Let the elitist administrations suffer the consequences of these โadultโ temper tantrums and pay for damages from their abundant endowments. And I ask: where are the parents of these useful idiot students? So ensconced in their own elitism that they are proud of their spoiled brat child?
Some of the parents are back in the Middle East, which is why these little terrorists should be expelled and deported back to the hellhole they crawled out of.
The retired officer is correct because he understands that the activists are waging political warfare per Saul Alinsky. The aim is the reaction on camera, so quiet arrests work wonders, especially if the activists have been caught on camera committing serious crimes.
Yes, conservatives rightfully feel the need to protect our country but, in the particular case of woke universities, protecting our nation may mean letting these woke universities melt down -- which given the juvenile behavior of the woke, and their disservice to society, is apropos.
Great piece. This also speaks to the unwillingness of Democrat administrations to identify the militant Left as a national threat. The DOJ & FBI studiously avoids investigation or even analysis unless provoked by public outcry.
Their charter still seems focused on Jan 6 "insurrectionists" and libertarian/conservative groups. We are at war with domestic enemies whether we acknowledge it or not.
The new administration must clean out the infected pockets of our government and it won't be easy. I can hear the howling now.
I had a hunch this is what it was all about. Palestine was just a convenient excuse. What a bunch of little mongrels. But itโs fitting that the Universities have to deal with it on their grounds, considering they fostered the mindset that hates the West and the United States. Iโm curious to understand their mindset more, I wonder what further undercover dialogue with these little Weather Underground wannabies would reveal? I want to hear what they are saying behind the scenes.
On a similar note, UNC Chapel Hill voted to dismember $2.3 million in DEI funding and apply it campus security. I thought that was a beautiful slap in the face to the anti-west protestor crowd!
The issue is never the issue with Marxism. They repeatedly change the marketing package from class to race, to gender to Palestine. The real issue is always the revolution. I suggest reading any of the books by Paul Kengor, an expert on Marxism.
Marxists have dealt with the "problem of reproduction" by capturing U.S. universities and K-12 schools. There they are passing Marxist ideology on to the next generation of students, i.e., "reproducing it." In contrast, most Americans have failed to pass on to the next generation the 2,000 year history of Western civilization and the uniqueness of the American founding in securing liberty. That will need to change if the U.S. is to remain a free nation.
Yes, but...they also explicitly said that they weren't sure about layoffs. Kind of an interesting comment to make while announcing the repurposing of the $2.3MM to school security. Does that mean that they're going to change the DEI grifters jobs to becoming campus cops? Curious minds want to know.
The police in Calgary, Alberta did an excellent job. They warned the protesters, told them it was not a negotiation, and then acted on their warning. Kind of like good parenting.
This is more for the University administrators. I would cut off all power all water all internet connections. I would install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out. Letโs see how long the pansies will last. Give them all a reasonable time period to leave peacefully. Then all that are left get arrested if they attempt to leave anyone attempting to cross the perimeter to assist them is also arrested. Wait them out. Hunger and thirst will do some wonderful things.
Just what Israel is doing to the majority CIVILIAN Palestinians in the Israeli created and controlled Gaza Ghetto, BIGGEST Concentration Camp in the World post WWII.
This is where I get lost. Is Israel NOT bombing and killing civilians in Gaza (with US-supplied armaments)? Isnโt the majority of Hamas leadership a thousand miles away? Can someone clear this up for me? I donโt understand either side of this argument.
First of all this is a war. As to weaponry, the Israelis have US and they have their own weapons. They have a sophisticated military.
Hamas started the war this time by raping and pillaging and bombing. Thousands of missiles from Gaza. Hamas turned Gaza into a war machine -- tunnels, Hamas operatives in and under hospitals -- organized specifically to hide behind civilians, the sick and the innocent. They teach hate in their schools, chanting river-to-the-sea (genocide) as they purposely put their own in harms way. Yep. I repeat. They purposely put their own children in harms way. This is difficult for westerners who think terrorists must have a "reason" for their anger. They conjure up the most contorted ideas. No. It is just hate.
Now Israel is fighting this war. And yes, in this war, the Israelis kill Hamas soldiers (dressed as civilians), clear Hamas-controlled areas, clear tunnels, bomb Hanas strongholds (pre-notifying civilians with leaflets to leave), etc. Most people who live in Gaza were taught from a young age to hate. But most people do not hate. Even after being taught to hate. But many do. Hamas used racism and jihadist religion and hate to build their army. Despite that, Israelis try to protect the innocents. But it is hard. Jews live with muslims in Israel but the jihadists cannot live with non-muslim jihadists. Like leftists, to ensure they "do not lose an argument," they simply BS. They take advantage of our gentile nature and inability to understand their mid-evil ways. They accuse others of what they do, engage in propaganda far worse than anything westerners do, use words like genocide, getto, and innocents inappropriately. The war is asymmetric. The Israelis are far more powerful militarily but take cautions to minimize civilian death. Hamas, instead of seeking peace and prosperity for Gaza, teaches hate, builds tunnels, targets innocents, and hides behind their own innocents (regardless of the injury to them) in their quest to engage in genocide.
Most westerners do not understand people who are lose-lose. We like to give excuses to bad people. Especially libs. But truth be told, Hamas people have been eaten up by their own hate. They are hateful idiots who favor death over life. That is the situation in a nutshell.
Then verify what I say. Ask questions. Educate yourself. It isn't about bias or me being rabid. These are known truths. No exaggerations. You can choose to ignore the truth. That is your right.
The vast majority of the Hamas murderers are in Gaza. Almost all of the Hamas leaders are in Gaza. Two or three of the top Hamas leaders are living a life of luxury far away
David, we covered this in another conversation. In that discussion over a month ago you wrote, " Ray... boy, you got it all figured out. Funny how your story has no content relating to Iran, the Mulahs, Hamas, Hezbolla,... no context at all...quite a weave.
People like you hate the REALITY and TRUTH so obvious to those with eyes to see!
Ray, I am so tempted to ask you what specifically I said that was not reality or untruthful. But I have no doubt you cannot do that. You are just too filled with resentment for "people like me."
I knew what genocide meant in theory, but I never saw it unfolding in Reality until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza.
When Israel controls every one and every thing entering and leaving Gaza, that's a Concentration Camp for over 2 MILLION people.
Gaza is only 26 miles long from the North to South about the size of greater Philadelphia. The 30,000 bombs Israel dropped on such a small area since October 8 the World sees as a genocide even if Israel can't see "never again" is happening to a weaker population Israel dominates and controls.
"...until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza...."
So, if you see it on TV, it's "Reality" ? Like the dozens of protesters that marched ut of the Duke commencement in protest? Those "dozens" were indeed 30 people--2.5 dozen--out of 7,000 graduates. A little under 0.5%. But hey--that's "Reality."
TV can--and does--miscontextualize whatever it wants in order to portray the message it wants to send. And TV is only one part of the MSM.
However long ago it was, the Palestinians elected hamas to lead them. That's called sowing the wind. Since then, they've lived third world lives because what passes as their leaders plainly don't care at all about their wellbeing, instead using financial aid to build tunnels, train terrorists, foment hatred, and plan to attack Israel. The hamas fighters are cowards, attacking only the weak and creating hostages wherever they go. Without your "Reality" TV, this wouldn't be possible; with it, it's trivial. They rely on people to have poor judgment to believe whatever they show.
For the record, Israel has offered the two-state solution more than once. And since it obviously never callsl for the elimination of Israel, it's been rejected every time. They don't want a two-state solution. Like little, but highly destructive and hateful children, they insist on a ~one-state~ solution: a Jew-free Middle East and a Palestine state.
Rational people reject this "solution." It's identical to a previous "final solution."
WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches it's children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans.
During a Time when Gaza and the West Bank together were "the Palestinian Territories," the West Bank was controlled by Fatah the Party of President Abbas. Gaza was controlled by Hamas which Israel promoted as a counterweight to the PLO to keep Palestinians divided.
The 2nd Palestinian Election was called for January 25, 2006.
To the shock and horror of Israel-US, in an Election ALL External monitors CERTIFIED as being FREE, FAIR and DEMOCRATIC, Hamas won the Election LEGITIMATELY at the BALLOT BOX.
Israel-US had Abbas, who is still there at 88, to dissolve the Palestinian Legislature after that Election and rule by Executive Order aka, as Israel's proxy policeman/Dictator, to keep Palestinians "QUIET" in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank.
Instead of talking with Hamas, now having the Responsibility to Govern, Israel tightened the economic straitjacket on all the People of the West Bank for expressing their Democratic wishes.
Going a step further, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
Israel-US ACTION left Hamas no other choice, but to resist the ILLEGAL Israeli Occupation International Law grants an OCCUPIED People to do with BULLETS!
Under the cover of Israel's Gaza MASSACRE over 500 Palestinians have been killed in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank by the IDF and the Settlers the latest incarnation of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.
You write: "WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches its children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans."
Any group that calls people who committed the October 7 atrocities ~IS~ subhuman. They were and are proud of what they did: they made videos of the acts to show how wonderful they are. They do not belong to the human race. They are sub- / prehuman. In other words, savages.
This isn't a negotiation nor will I answer any reply you might feel you must make to this.
If I drop 100 bombs on a terrorist tunnel I am engaging in a mini genocide. Right? And if I do that to 300 tunnels, for a total of 30,000 bombs, then it is genocide. Right? Or did you mean the genocide of the Hamas tunnels used to bomb Israel? Or was it the bombing of Hamas strongholds that you object to? Oh, but the tunnels are in a 26 mile area. Oh. That must not be allowed. I guess shooting rockets at civilians, rape, and calling for killing jews from the river to the sea is okay since the Israelis are more powerful and the rockets were stopped by Israeli defense systems. No harm, no foul, right? And hiding behind your own civilians and putting them in harms way to achieve political gain is okay. What else can one do, after all?
In other words, the Israelis must lose or be hurt 100x or die in hell before they can be morally right. I get it.
So sorry. I did not know about these new rules of war.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery. Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day. It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either. It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. ** An emotional attack without merit.
It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
** Wow! So you know where each bomb landed and who is a civilian and who is not and you take the word of the terrorists.
** And you believe jews kill others in war because they feel superior and do not value human life. Yiur true colors are emerging.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery.
** True.
Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day.
** Yeh. They have been fighting evil terrorists for a while. Or do you think terrorists are okay -- we just need to "understand" them?
--It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
** Actually, the hatreds started earlier.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either.
** Know your history. Islamic jihad and extremism are "allowed" to exist when good men Do nothing to fight evil. And it is evil.
It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
** No, the generation if fighters was created via tge education of hate. Not related to Israeli actions at all.
If you shed your hatred for jewish people you just might get a more clear picture.
You reflexively parrot imaginary death toll numbers. Hamas just makes up numbers which you dutifully parrot. The UN last week UN Office fo Humanitarian Affairs dramatically revised casualties,halving it's child fatality rate from the imaginary 14500 deaths to a now imaginary 7797. Pretty big discrepancies. You know why that happens? Because it's all made up. But hamas is counting on you to keรจp spreading the lies and you blindly oblige
Yes, the students and non-student protesters could leave if the water and power is cut off. The civilians in Gaza are trapped. (I assume the comment with "install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out," did not mean to trap the protesters inside so they could not leave.)
Actually, the Egyptians do not want them either. Nor any other arab country. In this respect, they quietly side with Israel's opposition to these jihadists. Alonh with Jordan who banished hundred of thousands of Palestinians who tried to take them over too. If the useful idiots dropped their binary victim vs colonialist perspectives they might actually be open to the truth -- it is the battle between mid-evil jihadists and the world with support from libs who want to view the world in their wrong victim-colonialist marxist-like perspective.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946.
That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948 driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Israel is not trying to take Gaza. They are destroying Hamas. You make up a lie and then argue against it.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946. That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948....
** Did you follow the huge migration of arabs into the area too? Were the new arabs colonialists? Why not? Oops. Does not fit nicely into your victim-colonialist box.
...driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
** Oh. you mean the war of independence when the arabs got together to drive the 81% population of jews out of the area which ended up displacing hundreds of thousand of arabs and about a million jews who lived in arab lands for many centuries. So who is the victim? Not everyone?
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Again, refuting a lie you make up. Unless driving out radical extremists equals driving out Palestinians. Do you think all arabs are jihadist extremists?
** sorry to break the news, most historical situations do not fit nicely into the colonialist-victim box.
Yes, it is my understanding the Palestinians are as unwelcome in the Muslims nations as the Eastern European Jews were unwelcome in so many nations at the time of the Holocaust. The Palestinians seem to have behaved badly and gotten a bad reputation for undermining the nations they had been welcomed into, also somewhat like the Eastern European Jews.
How many Eastern European Jews were Marxists/ communists? How many Eastern European Jews joined or aligned with the Bolsheviks? The Bolsheviks were the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, killing at least 20 million people within their empire.
One could also ask "How many Palestinians committed mass murders?"
How many supporters and fellow travellers does a mass murderer need to do their deeds?
Yeah it's terrible optics for the activist left. They need the police there as a foil for their drama to play out. If they're just acting nuts it doesn't work for them politically, it will just do damage to the Democratic Party.
Thanks for the great interview. As a reformed leftist and current (15+ year) LEO I was hoping for more. Naturally, as tactics arenโt evolving quickly enough, and as Rufos posts will be closely examined by the radical left, thereโs only so much that should be openly shared. I will say though that the fed response to the PDX courthouse has had some interesting fallout. No more camouflage for feds deployed in urban environments. Personal identifiers - badges and names plates must not be in subdued colorways either. As a reminder, the mainstream media went haywire with their โmilitarized policeโ reporting. Also, since most issued camo was flame resistant - and expensive - the replacement tan or green outfits are likewise very expensive. Anyway, not the first time that โpoor opticsโ has ended up costing the taxpayer heavily.
I support police. It was/is repulsive the way they are treated by bleeding heart liberals.
They are our first defense against those like antifa, against civil unrest and they have been targeted and abused by the left. I understand why they now be adverse to rescuing leftist elite universities.
Worthwhile reading but very disturbing nevertheless. "When the Seattle Police Department decided to abandon the East Precinct and allow the CHAZ to form, I thought it was a terrible decision. In retrospect, it does not seem as bad as I thought at the time. It is almost as if non-engagement can be a superior tactic than manning the barricades and fighting it out." This is an announcement of moral surrender. It is an admission that enforcing order in the streets "looks bad". I don't want to live in that type of society. You leftists in the big cities can enjoy the hellhole you have created for yourselves.
I think itโs more a tactic to nullify one of their strengths: claiming a moral high ground higher than the initial claim when the police come in with the zip ties, gas, and batons. The Useful Idiots like Ray LOVE to use that to shame Authority.
..."seemed productive was officers in plain clothes and unmarked vans snatching people in the dead of night. Very fast, very decentralized..." Sounds scary. If protestors are violent,that violence should be resolutely stopped by police. However I see no point in rooting for such totalitarian style tactics. Used by regimes which were "disappearing" their opponents.
They follow standard procedure: probable cause, normal arrest, booking and referral for prosecution. It's much better than mass confrontation with the mob. Keeps the police, the public, and the protestors safe. And is effective as a tactic.
Not scary unless you are a criminal. Waco and Ruby Ridge were scary. Early morning raids on homes by heavily armed SWAT teams, especially when the targets are suspected of nonviolent crimes.
Let's call things by their right names....There are two very different kinds of "Protesting". There is the real brave kind (that happens in places like Iran and Afghanistan) and then there's the spoilt-brat performative kind that happens in the West. Small-minded mob mentality in reality but recast by the MSM and Liberal establishment as a sanctified "right".
Lot of truth to this point.
Yes, I agree Graham 100%. Today it is very tactical. No heart or legitimacy at the top. Just a quest for power by those in elite circles who are able and willing to galvanize the "useful idiots" among us.
that ignores the noble intentions of many of these people.. i don't agree with you...
Noble intent combined with abject ignorance leads to horrible consequences
unfortunately stereotyping these students in a negative manner only is what seems to turn many peoples cranks... not mine...
As college students, they are all disgusting for various reasons. They should have known better before they graduated from high school
your response exemplifies my earlier to comment... i realize university campus's are great brainwashing places where indoctrination excels, but it still doesn't actually compare to the msm, lol...
It does to some extent Yes. That's the downside of comment threads....you can't post highly nuanced responses on them. But wouldn't you agree that my comment is a valid one on the typical student protestor even if not of the exceptional one?
there is some truth to your commentary - yes... however it is not an 'either' 'or' thing, in spite of the desire on the part of many to put everything in black and white terms - good, bad - etc. etc.. nothing is like that in real life... simple answers to challenges are not honest ones...
Marching around with a sign that says "Free Palestine" is deeply simplistic. Free how? Free from Hamas? Free from Islamism and Jew hate?
We know for the Palestinians "Free Palestine" has always only meant the erasure of the Jewish state.
What else does a college kid mean by that? "Free Gaza and the West Bank from their terrible leadership that has refused every offer of peace and a state for the past 50 years"?
And don't get me started on the chants/signs for "Infitada" or "From the River to the Sea"โthese are also simplistic, as in simple calls for mass murder.
i take it you don't believe in a 2 state solution... and i take it you think one side has acted in good faith while the other hasn't... well some of us see it differently and your choice of words in the last sentence summarize your viewpoint quite well too - simplistic...
Tell me James, I take it you believe in a two state solution. Okay. So why did Hamas not take the land given them, build a beautiful tourist center, prosper, and become the next Dubai and then help their "brothers" in the West bank? And do not tell me it was the Israeli's fault. Do you really think we, as Americans, can shove a two-state solution down their throat after they already rejected that? I think that's s tough ask when 6 year olds are taught to hate and kill jews and that all of Israel belongs to them - as part of their early childhood education. Not sure a two state solution is feasible at this time nor do we have any track record given our failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps losing a war is what Gaza really needs - so more peaceful, anti-jihadist arab influences can fill the gap. IMHO, it might bring peace to the middle east. The west has supported the palestinians and looked the other way when they engage in hate, bombings, and terrorism for far too long. Peace is already breaking out between Israel and other arab countries. Gaza is not on the side of peace but as Americans, we should be. That means letting Israel do the dirty work for themselves and their arab neighbors so the peace process can move forward -- so the region can prosper. It is what most of the arab world leaders wants. For them, the Palestinians, because of their constant hatreds and refusal to make peace, are a huge liability blocking the area from all kinds of regional economic initiatives.
Being mindlessly in favor of a two-state solution, as if that will remedy jihadist hatreds, has already proven itself to be folly. When the Palestinians drop their hatreds and terrorism, peace will come. Can you say Jordon? Can you say Egypt? Can you say the UAE? Better to back those who make peace than war. ๐ท๐ท๐ท
you cannot negotiate with rabid dogs, and the Muslims in gaza are as rabid as the democrats here
for some reason, a lot of democrats cannot see that
might be the rabies
Neither party in this war wants a two state solution. This is purely an imposition by outsiders who should be doing something productive like inducing the Palestinians to surrender.
James, using the "relativism" card is a cop-out. It can be used to counter ANY argument. I could literally paste your reply to anything I disagreed with - sounds intelligent, pragmatic, etc. But what you claim is not "honest" on the part of Graham is simply not 100% perfection -- which is impossible nor necessary. Also, please take no offense, but your accusation of Graham not being honest is thus false and thus not honest on your part. You just disagree without any elucidation. Just saying. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
david - i am not accusing graham of being dishonest... i am sure he is a fine person... i think his description is not a fair representation of what is happening here.. there is a big difference..
the same can be said for the definitive commentary too - its a cop out.. the elucidation is found in all that has transpired for the past 76 and more years - the history is complicated, but it is all their for anyone who is seriously interested in understanding or resolving this conflict.. clearly many people including leaders of countries have not been honest in their actions and intentions ... cheers..
Not really. Definitive arguments do not mean they lack nuance. I can be absolutely against abortion one week before child birth, for example. In this example, Graham attempts to segment a particular population. If you want to bring nuance to the discussion you can add something like -- what about this segment and this segment? That would be constructive and useful to the audience. Digging down on the facts is IMHO useful to all. Using the excuse of nuance to stop a line of exploration because you may not like where it may lead is, well a cop-out. Bouncing around unfocused just to win an argument, not so. That is what you do when you throw out "76 years." IMHO you need to learn how to "argue" fairly. Just saying. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
it really is that simple, these perverted vermin are rabid, and you cannot negotiate with rabid dogs
sorry, they are rabid little diseased rodents created by perverted democrats in power.
this is how the jewish were characterized in the 30's and 40's... i'd prefer not to repeat the mistakes of the past by dehumanizing people here, no matter who they are... it reflects badly on you pat..
let me help you with that delusion
Nazis were rabid vermin, they wanted to kill jews, so the rabid vermin pointed a finger, while pointing 3 fingers back at themselves
democrats are rabid vermin, they want to kill jews, mutilate mentally ill children, and lynch black babies in the womb,
when a democrat rodent points a finger, they point 3 claws back at themselves,
funny how anyone BUT a democrat rodent, understands that
The characterization of the 30โs and 40โs was based on personal feelings, with no supporting evidence. The characterization of the pro-Hamas rally participants is based on observation of their actions and words
I would add the nazi vermin also needed a fall guy to blame for all their stupid mistakes, and the mistakes the other politicians and nobility made over decades,
hence, kill the jews, solve the problems
Just like the rabid democrat vermin today
We on the Right have far, far better intentions than people on the Left do, and it's time to stop allowing your lies to the contrary.
i feel like i have now entered the land of the wizard of oz and what the wizard says is all true, lol...
โofficers in plain clothes and unmarked vans snatching people in the dead of night.โ This is brilliant strategy for effectively dealing with these narcissistic elites who crave media attention to control their false narrative of police brutality. Arrest them quietly and when they realize theyโre not getting the media coverage, the little punks will go back to mouthing off on TikTok. Every single one of them should be expelled from school.
My big question is what the heck are the parents thinking? If my kids participated in riots like this, we would immediately stop paying for tuition and cease all support. And I would roast them on any antisemitic/marxists posts they made on social media. But then, Iโm different from these parents who raised terrorists. I love my country in spite of its imperfections, and I have a working brain that can discern truth and lies.
Hats off to Tracie. ๐๐๐
Yes.
That tactic scared me - sounds like something we would have read about the Stazi or the KGB, back in the day (without the disappearance to Lubyanka or Siberiaโฆ).
I could also see these protest leaders responding by developing their own Praetorian Guard for round the clock protection
Yeah we're not talking about disappearing anyone. That's evil. This is just an effective means of dealing with irrational militants who hate their own country. And you're certainly right--I wouldn't put it past them to develop their own battalion of guards to subvert justice. These people are spoiled elite brats throwing tantrums for attention.
Could not agree more. Let the elitist administrations suffer the consequences of these โadultโ temper tantrums and pay for damages from their abundant endowments. And I ask: where are the parents of these useful idiot students? So ensconced in their own elitism that they are proud of their spoiled brat child?
Some of the parents are back in the Middle East, which is why these little terrorists should be expelled and deported back to the hellhole they crawled out of.
They arenโt paying taxes, why should they get tax-funded police protection?
The retired officer is correct because he understands that the activists are waging political warfare per Saul Alinsky. The aim is the reaction on camera, so quiet arrests work wonders, especially if the activists have been caught on camera committing serious crimes.
Exactly right!
Just sounded Stazi-like, to me
Extremely insightful. Thanks Chris.
Yes, conservatives rightfully feel the need to protect our country but, in the particular case of woke universities, protecting our nation may mean letting these woke universities melt down -- which given the juvenile behavior of the woke, and their disservice to society, is apropos.
Rightโwe need a change in orientation toward these problems.
Totally agree. I suggest terminating public funding of all public universities
Great piece. This also speaks to the unwillingness of Democrat administrations to identify the militant Left as a national threat. The DOJ & FBI studiously avoids investigation or even analysis unless provoked by public outcry.
Their charter still seems focused on Jan 6 "insurrectionists" and libertarian/conservative groups. We are at war with domestic enemies whether we acknowledge it or not.
The new administration must clean out the infected pockets of our government and it won't be easy. I can hear the howling now.
I had a hunch this is what it was all about. Palestine was just a convenient excuse. What a bunch of little mongrels. But itโs fitting that the Universities have to deal with it on their grounds, considering they fostered the mindset that hates the West and the United States. Iโm curious to understand their mindset more, I wonder what further undercover dialogue with these little Weather Underground wannabies would reveal? I want to hear what they are saying behind the scenes.
On a similar note, UNC Chapel Hill voted to dismember $2.3 million in DEI funding and apply it campus security. I thought that was a beautiful slap in the face to the anti-west protestor crowd!
We are making progress.
The issue is never the issue with Marxism. They repeatedly change the marketing package from class to race, to gender to Palestine. The real issue is always the revolution. I suggest reading any of the books by Paul Kengor, an expert on Marxism.
You are right.. it's always about getting one step closer to the revolution, and dealing with the "problem of reproduction" in a capitalist society.
Marxists have dealt with the "problem of reproduction" by capturing U.S. universities and K-12 schools. There they are passing Marxist ideology on to the next generation of students, i.e., "reproducing it." In contrast, most Americans have failed to pass on to the next generation the 2,000 year history of Western civilization and the uniqueness of the American founding in securing liberty. That will need to change if the U.S. is to remain a free nation.
UNC Chapel Hill absolutely shined with their decision to dismantle DEI program funding.
They did quite the job of defunding and divesting.
Yes, but...they also explicitly said that they weren't sure about layoffs. Kind of an interesting comment to make while announcing the repurposing of the $2.3MM to school security. Does that mean that they're going to change the DEI grifters jobs to becoming campus cops? Curious minds want to know.
What could possibly go wrong with that?
The police in Calgary, Alberta did an excellent job. They warned the protesters, told them it was not a negotiation, and then acted on their warning. Kind of like good parenting.
The provincial government supported their removal. The protesters and left wing opposition party are seeking an investigation into use of force. https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/police-crackdown-pro-palestinian-campus-protests-investigate
@Chris I very much appreciate content like this - concise, unique and insightful. thank you for sharing
This is more for the University administrators. I would cut off all power all water all internet connections. I would install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out. Letโs see how long the pansies will last. Give them all a reasonable time period to leave peacefully. Then all that are left get arrested if they attempt to leave anyone attempting to cross the perimeter to assist them is also arrested. Wait them out. Hunger and thirst will do some wonderful things.
Just what Israel is doing to the majority CIVILIAN Palestinians in the Israeli created and controlled Gaza Ghetto, BIGGEST Concentration Camp in the World post WWII.
Useful idiot alert.
This is where I get lost. Is Israel NOT bombing and killing civilians in Gaza (with US-supplied armaments)? Isnโt the majority of Hamas leadership a thousand miles away? Can someone clear this up for me? I donโt understand either side of this argument.
First of all this is a war. As to weaponry, the Israelis have US and they have their own weapons. They have a sophisticated military.
Hamas started the war this time by raping and pillaging and bombing. Thousands of missiles from Gaza. Hamas turned Gaza into a war machine -- tunnels, Hamas operatives in and under hospitals -- organized specifically to hide behind civilians, the sick and the innocent. They teach hate in their schools, chanting river-to-the-sea (genocide) as they purposely put their own in harms way. Yep. I repeat. They purposely put their own children in harms way. This is difficult for westerners who think terrorists must have a "reason" for their anger. They conjure up the most contorted ideas. No. It is just hate.
Now Israel is fighting this war. And yes, in this war, the Israelis kill Hamas soldiers (dressed as civilians), clear Hamas-controlled areas, clear tunnels, bomb Hanas strongholds (pre-notifying civilians with leaflets to leave), etc. Most people who live in Gaza were taught from a young age to hate. But most people do not hate. Even after being taught to hate. But many do. Hamas used racism and jihadist religion and hate to build their army. Despite that, Israelis try to protect the innocents. But it is hard. Jews live with muslims in Israel but the jihadists cannot live with non-muslim jihadists. Like leftists, to ensure they "do not lose an argument," they simply BS. They take advantage of our gentile nature and inability to understand their mid-evil ways. They accuse others of what they do, engage in propaganda far worse than anything westerners do, use words like genocide, getto, and innocents inappropriately. The war is asymmetric. The Israelis are far more powerful militarily but take cautions to minimize civilian death. Hamas, instead of seeking peace and prosperity for Gaza, teaches hate, builds tunnels, targets innocents, and hides behind their own innocents (regardless of the injury to them) in their quest to engage in genocide.
Most westerners do not understand people who are lose-lose. We like to give excuses to bad people. Especially libs. But truth be told, Hamas people have been eaten up by their own hate. They are hateful idiots who favor death over life. That is the situation in a nutshell.
Very factual and accurate analysis of how Hamas terrorists work. Thank you.
Sorry but you sound just as rabid and biased as the next guy.
Then verify what I say. Ask questions. Educate yourself. It isn't about bias or me being rabid. These are known truths. No exaggerations. You can choose to ignore the truth. That is your right.
The vast majority of the Hamas murderers are in Gaza. Almost all of the Hamas leaders are in Gaza. Two or three of the top Hamas leaders are living a life of luxury far away
How do they manage without surrounding themselves without innocent men, women, and children for protection?
David, we covered this in another conversation. In that discussion over a month ago you wrote, " Ray... boy, you got it all figured out. Funny how your story has no content relating to Iran, the Mulahs, Hamas, Hezbolla,... no context at all...quite a weave.
People like you hate the REALITY and TRUTH so obvious to those with eyes to see!
Ray, I am so tempted to ask you what specifically I said that was not reality or untruthful. But I have no doubt you cannot do that. You are just too filled with resentment for "people like me."
Disagree.
Concentration camps do not have shopping malls and fertility clinics.
^pro-jihad
You have interesting definitions of โgenocideโ, โmajorityโ, and โConcentration Campโ.
I knew what genocide meant in theory, but I never saw it unfolding in Reality until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza.
When Israel controls every one and every thing entering and leaving Gaza, that's a Concentration Camp for over 2 MILLION people.
Gaza is only 26 miles long from the North to South about the size of greater Philadelphia. The 30,000 bombs Israel dropped on such a small area since October 8 the World sees as a genocide even if Israel can't see "never again" is happening to a weaker population Israel dominates and controls.
"...until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza...."
So, if you see it on TV, it's "Reality" ? Like the dozens of protesters that marched ut of the Duke commencement in protest? Those "dozens" were indeed 30 people--2.5 dozen--out of 7,000 graduates. A little under 0.5%. But hey--that's "Reality."
TV can--and does--miscontextualize whatever it wants in order to portray the message it wants to send. And TV is only one part of the MSM.
However long ago it was, the Palestinians elected hamas to lead them. That's called sowing the wind. Since then, they've lived third world lives because what passes as their leaders plainly don't care at all about their wellbeing, instead using financial aid to build tunnels, train terrorists, foment hatred, and plan to attack Israel. The hamas fighters are cowards, attacking only the weak and creating hostages wherever they go. Without your "Reality" TV, this wouldn't be possible; with it, it's trivial. They rely on people to have poor judgment to believe whatever they show.
For the record, Israel has offered the two-state solution more than once. And since it obviously never callsl for the elimination of Israel, it's been rejected every time. They don't want a two-state solution. Like little, but highly destructive and hateful children, they insist on a ~one-state~ solution: a Jew-free Middle East and a Palestine state.
Rational people reject this "solution." It's identical to a previous "final solution."
WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches it's children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans.
During a Time when Gaza and the West Bank together were "the Palestinian Territories," the West Bank was controlled by Fatah the Party of President Abbas. Gaza was controlled by Hamas which Israel promoted as a counterweight to the PLO to keep Palestinians divided.
The 2nd Palestinian Election was called for January 25, 2006.
To the shock and horror of Israel-US, in an Election ALL External monitors CERTIFIED as being FREE, FAIR and DEMOCRATIC, Hamas won the Election LEGITIMATELY at the BALLOT BOX.
Israel-US had Abbas, who is still there at 88, to dissolve the Palestinian Legislature after that Election and rule by Executive Order aka, as Israel's proxy policeman/Dictator, to keep Palestinians "QUIET" in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank.
Instead of talking with Hamas, now having the Responsibility to Govern, Israel tightened the economic straitjacket on all the People of the West Bank for expressing their Democratic wishes.
Going a step further, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
Israel-US ACTION left Hamas no other choice, but to resist the ILLEGAL Israeli Occupation International Law grants an OCCUPIED People to do with BULLETS!
Under the cover of Israel's Gaza MASSACRE over 500 Palestinians have been killed in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank by the IDF and the Settlers the latest incarnation of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.
You write: "WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches its children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans."
Any group that calls people who committed the October 7 atrocities ~IS~ subhuman. They were and are proud of what they did: they made videos of the acts to show how wonderful they are. They do not belong to the human race. They are sub- / prehuman. In other words, savages.
This isn't a negotiation nor will I answer any reply you might feel you must make to this.
If I drop 100 bombs on a terrorist tunnel I am engaging in a mini genocide. Right? And if I do that to 300 tunnels, for a total of 30,000 bombs, then it is genocide. Right? Or did you mean the genocide of the Hamas tunnels used to bomb Israel? Or was it the bombing of Hamas strongholds that you object to? Oh, but the tunnels are in a 26 mile area. Oh. That must not be allowed. I guess shooting rockets at civilians, rape, and calling for killing jews from the river to the sea is okay since the Israelis are more powerful and the rockets were stopped by Israeli defense systems. No harm, no foul, right? And hiding behind your own civilians and putting them in harms way to achieve political gain is okay. What else can one do, after all?
In other words, the Israelis must lose or be hurt 100x or die in hell before they can be morally right. I get it.
So sorry. I did not know about these new rules of war.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery. Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day. It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either. It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
Let me unpack what you spout...
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. ** An emotional attack without merit.
It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
** Wow! So you know where each bomb landed and who is a civilian and who is not and you take the word of the terrorists.
** And you believe jews kill others in war because they feel superior and do not value human life. Yiur true colors are emerging.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery.
** True.
Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day.
** Yeh. They have been fighting evil terrorists for a while. Or do you think terrorists are okay -- we just need to "understand" them?
--It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
** Actually, the hatreds started earlier.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either.
** Know your history. Islamic jihad and extremism are "allowed" to exist when good men Do nothing to fight evil. And it is evil.
It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
** No, the generation if fighters was created via tge education of hate. Not related to Israeli actions at all.
If you shed your hatred for jewish people you just might get a more clear picture.
You reflexively parrot imaginary death toll numbers. Hamas just makes up numbers which you dutifully parrot. The UN last week UN Office fo Humanitarian Affairs dramatically revised casualties,halving it's child fatality rate from the imaginary 14500 deaths to a now imaginary 7797. Pretty big discrepancies. You know why that happens? Because it's all made up. But hamas is counting on you to keรจp spreading the lies and you blindly oblige
Oh, stop waving The Children around. You don't care about The Children any more than Hamas does.
Lol!
Yes, the students and non-student protesters could leave if the water and power is cut off. The civilians in Gaza are trapped. (I assume the comment with "install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out," did not mean to trap the protesters inside so they could not leave.)
The civilians in Gaza have 57 Muslim nations that they could go to. Gaza has a border with Egypt.
Actually, the Egyptians do not want them either. Nor any other arab country. In this respect, they quietly side with Israel's opposition to these jihadists. Alonh with Jordan who banished hundred of thousands of Palestinians who tried to take them over too. If the useful idiots dropped their binary victim vs colonialist perspectives they might actually be open to the truth -- it is the battle between mid-evil jihadists and the world with support from libs who want to view the world in their wrong victim-colonialist marxist-like perspective.
It's Palestinian land. Why should they leave?
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946.
That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948 driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
Let me unpack this comment too...
It's Palestinian land. Why should they leave?
** Israel is not trying to take Gaza. They are destroying Hamas. You make up a lie and then argue against it.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946. That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948....
** Did you follow the huge migration of arabs into the area too? Were the new arabs colonialists? Why not? Oops. Does not fit nicely into your victim-colonialist box.
...driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
** Oh. you mean the war of independence when the arabs got together to drive the 81% population of jews out of the area which ended up displacing hundreds of thousand of arabs and about a million jews who lived in arab lands for many centuries. So who is the victim? Not everyone?
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Again, refuting a lie you make up. Unless driving out radical extremists equals driving out Palestinians. Do you think all arabs are jihadist extremists?
** sorry to break the news, most historical situations do not fit nicely into the colonialist-victim box.
Yes, it is my understanding the Palestinians are as unwelcome in the Muslims nations as the Eastern European Jews were unwelcome in so many nations at the time of the Holocaust. The Palestinians seem to have behaved badly and gotten a bad reputation for undermining the nations they had been welcomed into, also somewhat like the Eastern European Jews.
How many Eastern European Jews committed mass murders?
How many Eastern European Jews were Marxists/ communists? How many Eastern European Jews joined or aligned with the Bolsheviks? The Bolsheviks were the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, killing at least 20 million people within their empire.
One could also ask "How many Palestinians committed mass murders?"
How many supporters and fellow travellers does a mass murderer need to do their deeds?
Yeah it's terrible optics for the activist left. They need the police there as a foil for their drama to play out. If they're just acting nuts it doesn't work for them politically, it will just do damage to the Democratic Party.
Thanks for the great interview. As a reformed leftist and current (15+ year) LEO I was hoping for more. Naturally, as tactics arenโt evolving quickly enough, and as Rufos posts will be closely examined by the radical left, thereโs only so much that should be openly shared. I will say though that the fed response to the PDX courthouse has had some interesting fallout. No more camouflage for feds deployed in urban environments. Personal identifiers - badges and names plates must not be in subdued colorways either. As a reminder, the mainstream media went haywire with their โmilitarized policeโ reporting. Also, since most issued camo was flame resistant - and expensive - the replacement tan or green outfits are likewise very expensive. Anyway, not the first time that โpoor opticsโ has ended up costing the taxpayer heavily.
Interesting points!
I support police. It was/is repulsive the way they are treated by bleeding heart liberals.
They are our first defense against those like antifa, against civil unrest and they have been targeted and abused by the left. I understand why they now be adverse to rescuing leftist elite universities.
A damn shame for all of us.
Worthwhile reading but very disturbing nevertheless. "When the Seattle Police Department decided to abandon the East Precinct and allow the CHAZ to form, I thought it was a terrible decision. In retrospect, it does not seem as bad as I thought at the time. It is almost as if non-engagement can be a superior tactic than manning the barricades and fighting it out." This is an announcement of moral surrender. It is an admission that enforcing order in the streets "looks bad". I don't want to live in that type of society. You leftists in the big cities can enjoy the hellhole you have created for yourselves.
There has to be a long-term strategic vision. Fighting at barricades did not accomplish the desired result.
I think itโs more a tactic to nullify one of their strengths: claiming a moral high ground higher than the initial claim when the police come in with the zip ties, gas, and batons. The Useful Idiots like Ray LOVE to use that to shame Authority.
..."seemed productive was officers in plain clothes and unmarked vans snatching people in the dead of night. Very fast, very decentralized..." Sounds scary. If protestors are violent,that violence should be resolutely stopped by police. However I see no point in rooting for such totalitarian style tactics. Used by regimes which were "disappearing" their opponents.
They follow standard procedure: probable cause, normal arrest, booking and referral for prosecution. It's much better than mass confrontation with the mob. Keeps the police, the public, and the protestors safe. And is effective as a tactic.
Because it robs them of the intended police reaction and robs them of the images of police brutality.
LA did it in the early 90's with gangs they were called extraction teams, they would go in and purge the most dangerous and remove them.
Right.
Igor, this is a "straw man" argument. You propose an exaggerated false idea that is not acceptable and then argue against it.
Disappearing totalitarian style involved murder. I doubt he's suggesting that. LOL
Arrest and subsequent conviction and sentencing.... With the immediate benefit of decapitation of street leadership.
The FBI should be at the forefront if these efforts but....
Not scary unless you are a criminal. Waco and Ruby Ridge were scary. Early morning raids on homes by heavily armed SWAT teams, especially when the targets are suspected of nonviolent crimes.
Before city cops move in, get a liability release from schools. All lawsuits will be absorbed by the college.
No release, no cops.