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Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

I knew what genocide meant in theory, but I never saw it unfolding in Reality until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza.

When Israel controls every one and every thing entering and leaving Gaza, that's a Concentration Camp for over 2 MILLION people.

Gaza is only 26 miles long from the North to South about the size of greater Philadelphia. The 30,000 bombs Israel dropped on such a small area since October 8 the World sees as a genocide even if Israel can't see "never again" is happening to a weaker population Israel dominates and controls.

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Joe Horton's avatar

"...until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza...."

So, if you see it on TV, it's "Reality" ? Like the dozens of protesters that marched ut of the Duke commencement in protest? Those "dozens" were indeed 30 people--2.5 dozen--out of 7,000 graduates. A little under 0.5%. But hey--that's "Reality."

TV can--and does--miscontextualize whatever it wants in order to portray the message it wants to send. And TV is only one part of the MSM.

However long ago it was, the Palestinians elected hamas to lead them. That's called sowing the wind. Since then, they've lived third world lives because what passes as their leaders plainly don't care at all about their wellbeing, instead using financial aid to build tunnels, train terrorists, foment hatred, and plan to attack Israel. The hamas fighters are cowards, attacking only the weak and creating hostages wherever they go. Without your "Reality" TV, this wouldn't be possible; with it, it's trivial. They rely on people to have poor judgment to believe whatever they show.

For the record, Israel has offered the two-state solution more than once. And since it obviously never callsl for the elimination of Israel, it's been rejected every time. They don't want a two-state solution. Like little, but highly destructive and hateful children, they insist on a ~one-state~ solution: a Jew-free Middle East and a Palestine state.

Rational people reject this "solution." It's identical to a previous "final solution."

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Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches it's children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans.

During a Time when Gaza and the West Bank together were "the Palestinian Territories," the West Bank was controlled by Fatah the Party of President Abbas. Gaza was controlled by Hamas which Israel promoted as a counterweight to the PLO to keep Palestinians divided.

The 2nd Palestinian Election was called for January 25, 2006.

To the shock and horror of Israel-US, in an Election ALL External monitors CERTIFIED as being FREE, FAIR and DEMOCRATIC, Hamas won the Election LEGITIMATELY at the BALLOT BOX.

Israel-US had Abbas, who is still there at 88, to dissolve the Palestinian Legislature after that Election and rule by Executive Order aka, as Israel's proxy policeman/Dictator, to keep Palestinians "QUIET" in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank.

Instead of talking with Hamas, now having the Responsibility to Govern, Israel tightened the economic straitjacket on all the People of the West Bank for expressing their Democratic wishes.

Going a step further, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.

Israel-US ACTION left Hamas no other choice, but to resist the ILLEGAL Israeli Occupation International Law grants an OCCUPIED People to do with BULLETS!

Under the cover of Israel's Gaza MASSACRE over 500 Palestinians have been killed in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank by the IDF and the Settlers the latest incarnation of Hitler's Brown Shirts.

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Joe Horton's avatar

Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.

You write: "WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches its children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans."

Any group that calls people who committed the October 7 atrocities ~IS~ subhuman. They were and are proud of what they did: they made videos of the acts to show how wonderful they are. They do not belong to the human race. They are sub- / prehuman. In other words, savages.

This isn't a negotiation nor will I answer any reply you might feel you must make to this.

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David Silverberg's avatar

If I drop 100 bombs on a terrorist tunnel I am engaging in a mini genocide. Right? And if I do that to 300 tunnels, for a total of 30,000 bombs, then it is genocide. Right? Or did you mean the genocide of the Hamas tunnels used to bomb Israel? Or was it the bombing of Hamas strongholds that you object to? Oh, but the tunnels are in a 26 mile area. Oh. That must not be allowed. I guess shooting rockets at civilians, rape, and calling for killing jews from the river to the sea is okay since the Israelis are more powerful and the rockets were stopped by Israeli defense systems. No harm, no foul, right? And hiding behind your own civilians and putting them in harms way to achieve political gain is okay. What else can one do, after all?

In other words, the Israelis must lose or be hurt 100x or die in hell before they can be morally right. I get it.

So sorry. I did not know about these new rules of war.

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Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.

Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery. Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day. It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.

In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either. It's only creating the next generation of resisters.

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David Silverberg's avatar

Let me unpack what you spout...

You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. ** An emotional attack without merit.

It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.

** Wow! So you know where each bomb landed and who is a civilian and who is not and you take the word of the terrorists.

** And you believe jews kill others in war because they feel superior and do not value human life. Yiur true colors are emerging.

Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery.

** True.

Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day.

** Yeh. They have been fighting evil terrorists for a while. Or do you think terrorists are okay -- we just need to "understand" them?

--It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.

** Actually, the hatreds started earlier.

In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either.

** Know your history. Islamic jihad and extremism are "allowed" to exist when good men Do nothing to fight evil. And it is evil.

It's only creating the next generation of resisters.

** No, the generation if fighters was created via tge education of hate. Not related to Israeli actions at all.

If you shed your hatred for jewish people you just might get a more clear picture.

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Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

I don't hate Jewish People. I hate heartless lying psychopaths blinded by POWER who have no sense of Common Humanity.

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David Silverberg's avatar

Yes you do. Know thyself.

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Barbara costas's avatar

You reflexively parrot imaginary death toll numbers. Hamas just makes up numbers which you dutifully parrot. The UN last week UN Office fo Humanitarian Affairs dramatically revised casualties,halving it's child fatality rate from the imaginary 14500 deaths to a now imaginary 7797. Pretty big discrepancies. You know why that happens? Because it's all made up. But hamas is counting on you to keèp spreading the lies and you blindly oblige

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Tricia's avatar

Oh, stop waving The Children around. You don't care about The Children any more than Hamas does.

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