This is more for the University administrators. I would cut off all power all water all internet connections. I would install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out. Let’s see how long the pansies will last. Give them all a reasonable time period to leave peacefully. Then all that are left get arrested if they attempt to leave anyone a…
This is more for the University administrators. I would cut off all power all water all internet connections. I would install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out. Let’s see how long the pansies will last. Give them all a reasonable time period to leave peacefully. Then all that are left get arrested if they attempt to leave anyone attempting to cross the perimeter to assist them is also arrested. Wait them out. Hunger and thirst will do some wonderful things.
Just what Israel is doing to the majority CIVILIAN Palestinians in the Israeli created and controlled Gaza Ghetto, BIGGEST Concentration Camp in the World post WWII.
This is where I get lost. Is Israel NOT bombing and killing civilians in Gaza (with US-supplied armaments)? Isn’t the majority of Hamas leadership a thousand miles away? Can someone clear this up for me? I don’t understand either side of this argument.
First of all this is a war. As to weaponry, the Israelis have US and they have their own weapons. They have a sophisticated military.
Hamas started the war this time by raping and pillaging and bombing. Thousands of missiles from Gaza. Hamas turned Gaza into a war machine -- tunnels, Hamas operatives in and under hospitals -- organized specifically to hide behind civilians, the sick and the innocent. They teach hate in their schools, chanting river-to-the-sea (genocide) as they purposely put their own in harms way. Yep. I repeat. They purposely put their own children in harms way. This is difficult for westerners who think terrorists must have a "reason" for their anger. They conjure up the most contorted ideas. No. It is just hate.
Now Israel is fighting this war. And yes, in this war, the Israelis kill Hamas soldiers (dressed as civilians), clear Hamas-controlled areas, clear tunnels, bomb Hanas strongholds (pre-notifying civilians with leaflets to leave), etc. Most people who live in Gaza were taught from a young age to hate. But most people do not hate. Even after being taught to hate. But many do. Hamas used racism and jihadist religion and hate to build their army. Despite that, Israelis try to protect the innocents. But it is hard. Jews live with muslims in Israel but the jihadists cannot live with non-muslim jihadists. Like leftists, to ensure they "do not lose an argument," they simply BS. They take advantage of our gentile nature and inability to understand their mid-evil ways. They accuse others of what they do, engage in propaganda far worse than anything westerners do, use words like genocide, getto, and innocents inappropriately. The war is asymmetric. The Israelis are far more powerful militarily but take cautions to minimize civilian death. Hamas, instead of seeking peace and prosperity for Gaza, teaches hate, builds tunnels, targets innocents, and hides behind their own innocents (regardless of the injury to them) in their quest to engage in genocide.
Most westerners do not understand people who are lose-lose. We like to give excuses to bad people. Especially libs. But truth be told, Hamas people have been eaten up by their own hate. They are hateful idiots who favor death over life. That is the situation in a nutshell.
Then verify what I say. Ask questions. Educate yourself. It isn't about bias or me being rabid. These are known truths. No exaggerations. You can choose to ignore the truth. That is your right.
The vast majority of the Hamas murderers are in Gaza. Almost all of the Hamas leaders are in Gaza. Two or three of the top Hamas leaders are living a life of luxury far away
David, we covered this in another conversation. In that discussion over a month ago you wrote, " Ray... boy, you got it all figured out. Funny how your story has no content relating to Iran, the Mulahs, Hamas, Hezbolla,... no context at all...quite a weave.
People like you hate the REALITY and TRUTH so obvious to those with eyes to see!
Ray, I am so tempted to ask you what specifically I said that was not reality or untruthful. But I have no doubt you cannot do that. You are just too filled with resentment for "people like me."
I knew what genocide meant in theory, but I never saw it unfolding in Reality until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza.
When Israel controls every one and every thing entering and leaving Gaza, that's a Concentration Camp for over 2 MILLION people.
Gaza is only 26 miles long from the North to South about the size of greater Philadelphia. The 30,000 bombs Israel dropped on such a small area since October 8 the World sees as a genocide even if Israel can't see "never again" is happening to a weaker population Israel dominates and controls.
"...until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza...."
So, if you see it on TV, it's "Reality" ? Like the dozens of protesters that marched ut of the Duke commencement in protest? Those "dozens" were indeed 30 people--2.5 dozen--out of 7,000 graduates. A little under 0.5%. But hey--that's "Reality."
TV can--and does--miscontextualize whatever it wants in order to portray the message it wants to send. And TV is only one part of the MSM.
However long ago it was, the Palestinians elected hamas to lead them. That's called sowing the wind. Since then, they've lived third world lives because what passes as their leaders plainly don't care at all about their wellbeing, instead using financial aid to build tunnels, train terrorists, foment hatred, and plan to attack Israel. The hamas fighters are cowards, attacking only the weak and creating hostages wherever they go. Without your "Reality" TV, this wouldn't be possible; with it, it's trivial. They rely on people to have poor judgment to believe whatever they show.
For the record, Israel has offered the two-state solution more than once. And since it obviously never callsl for the elimination of Israel, it's been rejected every time. They don't want a two-state solution. Like little, but highly destructive and hateful children, they insist on a ~one-state~ solution: a Jew-free Middle East and a Palestine state.
Rational people reject this "solution." It's identical to a previous "final solution."
WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches it's children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans.
During a Time when Gaza and the West Bank together were "the Palestinian Territories," the West Bank was controlled by Fatah the Party of President Abbas. Gaza was controlled by Hamas which Israel promoted as a counterweight to the PLO to keep Palestinians divided.
The 2nd Palestinian Election was called for January 25, 2006.
To the shock and horror of Israel-US, in an Election ALL External monitors CERTIFIED as being FREE, FAIR and DEMOCRATIC, Hamas won the Election LEGITIMATELY at the BALLOT BOX.
Israel-US had Abbas, who is still there at 88, to dissolve the Palestinian Legislature after that Election and rule by Executive Order aka, as Israel's proxy policeman/Dictator, to keep Palestinians "QUIET" in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank.
Instead of talking with Hamas, now having the Responsibility to Govern, Israel tightened the economic straitjacket on all the People of the West Bank for expressing their Democratic wishes.
Going a step further, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
Israel-US ACTION left Hamas no other choice, but to resist the ILLEGAL Israeli Occupation International Law grants an OCCUPIED People to do with BULLETS!
Under the cover of Israel's Gaza MASSACRE over 500 Palestinians have been killed in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank by the IDF and the Settlers the latest incarnation of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.
You write: "WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches its children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans."
Any group that calls people who committed the October 7 atrocities ~IS~ subhuman. They were and are proud of what they did: they made videos of the acts to show how wonderful they are. They do not belong to the human race. They are sub- / prehuman. In other words, savages.
This isn't a negotiation nor will I answer any reply you might feel you must make to this.
If I drop 100 bombs on a terrorist tunnel I am engaging in a mini genocide. Right? And if I do that to 300 tunnels, for a total of 30,000 bombs, then it is genocide. Right? Or did you mean the genocide of the Hamas tunnels used to bomb Israel? Or was it the bombing of Hamas strongholds that you object to? Oh, but the tunnels are in a 26 mile area. Oh. That must not be allowed. I guess shooting rockets at civilians, rape, and calling for killing jews from the river to the sea is okay since the Israelis are more powerful and the rockets were stopped by Israeli defense systems. No harm, no foul, right? And hiding behind your own civilians and putting them in harms way to achieve political gain is okay. What else can one do, after all?
In other words, the Israelis must lose or be hurt 100x or die in hell before they can be morally right. I get it.
So sorry. I did not know about these new rules of war.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery. Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day. It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either. It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. ** An emotional attack without merit.
It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
** Wow! So you know where each bomb landed and who is a civilian and who is not and you take the word of the terrorists.
** And you believe jews kill others in war because they feel superior and do not value human life. Yiur true colors are emerging.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery.
** True.
Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day.
** Yeh. They have been fighting evil terrorists for a while. Or do you think terrorists are okay -- we just need to "understand" them?
--It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
** Actually, the hatreds started earlier.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either.
** Know your history. Islamic jihad and extremism are "allowed" to exist when good men Do nothing to fight evil. And it is evil.
It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
** No, the generation if fighters was created via tge education of hate. Not related to Israeli actions at all.
If you shed your hatred for jewish people you just might get a more clear picture.
You reflexively parrot imaginary death toll numbers. Hamas just makes up numbers which you dutifully parrot. The UN last week UN Office fo Humanitarian Affairs dramatically revised casualties,halving it's child fatality rate from the imaginary 14500 deaths to a now imaginary 7797. Pretty big discrepancies. You know why that happens? Because it's all made up. But hamas is counting on you to keèp spreading the lies and you blindly oblige
Yes, the students and non-student protesters could leave if the water and power is cut off. The civilians in Gaza are trapped. (I assume the comment with "install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out," did not mean to trap the protesters inside so they could not leave.)
Actually, the Egyptians do not want them either. Nor any other arab country. In this respect, they quietly side with Israel's opposition to these jihadists. Alonh with Jordan who banished hundred of thousands of Palestinians who tried to take them over too. If the useful idiots dropped their binary victim vs colonialist perspectives they might actually be open to the truth -- it is the battle between mid-evil jihadists and the world with support from libs who want to view the world in their wrong victim-colonialist marxist-like perspective.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946.
That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948 driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Israel is not trying to take Gaza. They are destroying Hamas. You make up a lie and then argue against it.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946. That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948....
** Did you follow the huge migration of arabs into the area too? Were the new arabs colonialists? Why not? Oops. Does not fit nicely into your victim-colonialist box.
...driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
** Oh. you mean the war of independence when the arabs got together to drive the 81% population of jews out of the area which ended up displacing hundreds of thousand of arabs and about a million jews who lived in arab lands for many centuries. So who is the victim? Not everyone?
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Again, refuting a lie you make up. Unless driving out radical extremists equals driving out Palestinians. Do you think all arabs are jihadist extremists?
** sorry to break the news, most historical situations do not fit nicely into the colonialist-victim box.
Yes, it is my understanding the Palestinians are as unwelcome in the Muslims nations as the Eastern European Jews were unwelcome in so many nations at the time of the Holocaust. The Palestinians seem to have behaved badly and gotten a bad reputation for undermining the nations they had been welcomed into, also somewhat like the Eastern European Jews.
How many Eastern European Jews were Marxists/ communists? How many Eastern European Jews joined or aligned with the Bolsheviks? The Bolsheviks were the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, killing at least 20 million people within their empire.
One could also ask "How many Palestinians committed mass murders?"
How many supporters and fellow travellers does a mass murderer need to do their deeds?
At worst, Tricia D, the jews in Russia were useful idiots. Perhaps you should watch Fiddler In The Roof. When they went to Israel to set up their "communist" kibutzim, they set up peaceful communities. The killing in Russia was in conflict with jewish culture. But I agree many jews in Russia were communists. But after they were used to create regime change, many were sent to the gulags. They were not a part of the killing of millions. You can call jews useful idiots and idealistic fools if you must, but jews are not murderers nor hateful, unlike the jihadists you support so proudly.
"Fiddler on the Roof"? I hope you are making a joke and do not get your understanding of history from fiction.
1) Ethnic Jews were very much part of the killing of millions in Soviet Union so arguing it was against "jewish culture" is meaningless. Maybe it is "against jewish culture" to publicly, directly kill people, but not to create a famine in which millions die of starvation or enslave people and work them to death in freezing conditions.
2) Irgun, the Jewish terrorist organization in 1930's Palestine before Israel was created used an emblem showing a simple graphic map of "Greater Israel" and a rifle with the words "With this". They were terrorists They did bombings, often disguising themselves as Muslims to shift blame.
3) Certainly the highest level of the Jewish organization that became the Israeli government approved poisoning the water supply of the German POWs after WW II and poisoning the wells of Palestinians during what is called the 'Nakba". These were intended as secret actions so it seems once again, it is not "against jewish culture" to kill, only to be publicly be seen to kill.
Jews are as much murderers and as hateful as any other group. Maybe the only difference is they have either genuinely convinced themselves they are not or simply devote more effort to concealment of their murders and hates from outsiders.
Me saying that does not mean I support the jihadists and your effort to define me that way is a creepy.
This is more for the University administrators. I would cut off all power all water all internet connections. I would install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out. Let’s see how long the pansies will last. Give them all a reasonable time period to leave peacefully. Then all that are left get arrested if they attempt to leave anyone attempting to cross the perimeter to assist them is also arrested. Wait them out. Hunger and thirst will do some wonderful things.
Just what Israel is doing to the majority CIVILIAN Palestinians in the Israeli created and controlled Gaza Ghetto, BIGGEST Concentration Camp in the World post WWII.
Useful idiot alert.
This is where I get lost. Is Israel NOT bombing and killing civilians in Gaza (with US-supplied armaments)? Isn’t the majority of Hamas leadership a thousand miles away? Can someone clear this up for me? I don’t understand either side of this argument.
First of all this is a war. As to weaponry, the Israelis have US and they have their own weapons. They have a sophisticated military.
Hamas started the war this time by raping and pillaging and bombing. Thousands of missiles from Gaza. Hamas turned Gaza into a war machine -- tunnels, Hamas operatives in and under hospitals -- organized specifically to hide behind civilians, the sick and the innocent. They teach hate in their schools, chanting river-to-the-sea (genocide) as they purposely put their own in harms way. Yep. I repeat. They purposely put their own children in harms way. This is difficult for westerners who think terrorists must have a "reason" for their anger. They conjure up the most contorted ideas. No. It is just hate.
Now Israel is fighting this war. And yes, in this war, the Israelis kill Hamas soldiers (dressed as civilians), clear Hamas-controlled areas, clear tunnels, bomb Hanas strongholds (pre-notifying civilians with leaflets to leave), etc. Most people who live in Gaza were taught from a young age to hate. But most people do not hate. Even after being taught to hate. But many do. Hamas used racism and jihadist religion and hate to build their army. Despite that, Israelis try to protect the innocents. But it is hard. Jews live with muslims in Israel but the jihadists cannot live with non-muslim jihadists. Like leftists, to ensure they "do not lose an argument," they simply BS. They take advantage of our gentile nature and inability to understand their mid-evil ways. They accuse others of what they do, engage in propaganda far worse than anything westerners do, use words like genocide, getto, and innocents inappropriately. The war is asymmetric. The Israelis are far more powerful militarily but take cautions to minimize civilian death. Hamas, instead of seeking peace and prosperity for Gaza, teaches hate, builds tunnels, targets innocents, and hides behind their own innocents (regardless of the injury to them) in their quest to engage in genocide.
Most westerners do not understand people who are lose-lose. We like to give excuses to bad people. Especially libs. But truth be told, Hamas people have been eaten up by their own hate. They are hateful idiots who favor death over life. That is the situation in a nutshell.
Very factual and accurate analysis of how Hamas terrorists work. Thank you.
Sorry but you sound just as rabid and biased as the next guy.
Then verify what I say. Ask questions. Educate yourself. It isn't about bias or me being rabid. These are known truths. No exaggerations. You can choose to ignore the truth. That is your right.
The vast majority of the Hamas murderers are in Gaza. Almost all of the Hamas leaders are in Gaza. Two or three of the top Hamas leaders are living a life of luxury far away
How do they manage without surrounding themselves without innocent men, women, and children for protection?
David, we covered this in another conversation. In that discussion over a month ago you wrote, " Ray... boy, you got it all figured out. Funny how your story has no content relating to Iran, the Mulahs, Hamas, Hezbolla,... no context at all...quite a weave.
People like you hate the REALITY and TRUTH so obvious to those with eyes to see!
Ray, I am so tempted to ask you what specifically I said that was not reality or untruthful. But I have no doubt you cannot do that. You are just too filled with resentment for "people like me."
Disagree.
Concentration camps do not have shopping malls and fertility clinics.
^pro-jihad
You have interesting definitions of “genocide”, “majority”, and “Concentration Camp”.
I knew what genocide meant in theory, but I never saw it unfolding in Reality until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza.
When Israel controls every one and every thing entering and leaving Gaza, that's a Concentration Camp for over 2 MILLION people.
Gaza is only 26 miles long from the North to South about the size of greater Philadelphia. The 30,000 bombs Israel dropped on such a small area since October 8 the World sees as a genocide even if Israel can't see "never again" is happening to a weaker population Israel dominates and controls.
"...until TV showed the World what Israel is doing in Gaza...."
So, if you see it on TV, it's "Reality" ? Like the dozens of protesters that marched ut of the Duke commencement in protest? Those "dozens" were indeed 30 people--2.5 dozen--out of 7,000 graduates. A little under 0.5%. But hey--that's "Reality."
TV can--and does--miscontextualize whatever it wants in order to portray the message it wants to send. And TV is only one part of the MSM.
However long ago it was, the Palestinians elected hamas to lead them. That's called sowing the wind. Since then, they've lived third world lives because what passes as their leaders plainly don't care at all about their wellbeing, instead using financial aid to build tunnels, train terrorists, foment hatred, and plan to attack Israel. The hamas fighters are cowards, attacking only the weak and creating hostages wherever they go. Without your "Reality" TV, this wouldn't be possible; with it, it's trivial. They rely on people to have poor judgment to believe whatever they show.
For the record, Israel has offered the two-state solution more than once. And since it obviously never callsl for the elimination of Israel, it's been rejected every time. They don't want a two-state solution. Like little, but highly destructive and hateful children, they insist on a ~one-state~ solution: a Jew-free Middle East and a Palestine state.
Rational people reject this "solution." It's identical to a previous "final solution."
WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches it's children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans.
During a Time when Gaza and the West Bank together were "the Palestinian Territories," the West Bank was controlled by Fatah the Party of President Abbas. Gaza was controlled by Hamas which Israel promoted as a counterweight to the PLO to keep Palestinians divided.
The 2nd Palestinian Election was called for January 25, 2006.
To the shock and horror of Israel-US, in an Election ALL External monitors CERTIFIED as being FREE, FAIR and DEMOCRATIC, Hamas won the Election LEGITIMATELY at the BALLOT BOX.
Israel-US had Abbas, who is still there at 88, to dissolve the Palestinian Legislature after that Election and rule by Executive Order aka, as Israel's proxy policeman/Dictator, to keep Palestinians "QUIET" in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank.
Instead of talking with Hamas, now having the Responsibility to Govern, Israel tightened the economic straitjacket on all the People of the West Bank for expressing their Democratic wishes.
Going a step further, President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
Israel-US ACTION left Hamas no other choice, but to resist the ILLEGAL Israeli Occupation International Law grants an OCCUPIED People to do with BULLETS!
Under the cover of Israel's Gaza MASSACRE over 500 Palestinians have been killed in the ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED West Bank by the IDF and the Settlers the latest incarnation of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.
You write: "WAR Propaganda is rampant and Israel has a lot of experience misrepresenting the reality. Israel teaches its children to hate Palestinians as sub-humans."
Any group that calls people who committed the October 7 atrocities ~IS~ subhuman. They were and are proud of what they did: they made videos of the acts to show how wonderful they are. They do not belong to the human race. They are sub- / prehuman. In other words, savages.
This isn't a negotiation nor will I answer any reply you might feel you must make to this.
If I drop 100 bombs on a terrorist tunnel I am engaging in a mini genocide. Right? And if I do that to 300 tunnels, for a total of 30,000 bombs, then it is genocide. Right? Or did you mean the genocide of the Hamas tunnels used to bomb Israel? Or was it the bombing of Hamas strongholds that you object to? Oh, but the tunnels are in a 26 mile area. Oh. That must not be allowed. I guess shooting rockets at civilians, rape, and calling for killing jews from the river to the sea is okay since the Israelis are more powerful and the rockets were stopped by Israeli defense systems. No harm, no foul, right? And hiding behind your own civilians and putting them in harms way to achieve political gain is okay. What else can one do, after all?
In other words, the Israelis must lose or be hurt 100x or die in hell before they can be morally right. I get it.
So sorry. I did not know about these new rules of war.
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery. Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day. It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either. It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
Let me unpack what you spout...
You are so delusionally BLIND to the Realities. ** An emotional attack without merit.
It's US-Israeli bombs killing Palestinian CIVILIANS above ground including 14,000 CHILDREN so far because to Israel, Palestinian lives are expendable having no value and inferior to Jews.
** Wow! So you know where each bomb landed and who is a civilian and who is not and you take the word of the terrorists.
** And you believe jews kill others in war because they feel superior and do not value human life. Yiur true colors are emerging.
Gaza does not have a Military with uniforms, jet fighters, bombers, Apache attack helicoptors, tanks and artillery.
** True.
Israel has been assassinating Hamas resisters to the Israeli OCCUPATION since 2007 driving them underground, the most logical place to escape Israeli attacks and survive to fight another Day.
** Yeh. They have been fighting evil terrorists for a while. Or do you think terrorists are okay -- we just need to "understand" them?
--It's a an unresolved WAR that started in 1948.
** Actually, the hatreds started earlier.
In all those years Israel has not been able to eliminate Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, and this current Israeli genocide won't eliminate Hamas either.
** Know your history. Islamic jihad and extremism are "allowed" to exist when good men Do nothing to fight evil. And it is evil.
It's only creating the next generation of resisters.
** No, the generation if fighters was created via tge education of hate. Not related to Israeli actions at all.
If you shed your hatred for jewish people you just might get a more clear picture.
I don't hate Jewish People. I hate heartless lying psychopaths blinded by POWER who have no sense of Common Humanity.
Yes you do. Know thyself.
You reflexively parrot imaginary death toll numbers. Hamas just makes up numbers which you dutifully parrot. The UN last week UN Office fo Humanitarian Affairs dramatically revised casualties,halving it's child fatality rate from the imaginary 14500 deaths to a now imaginary 7797. Pretty big discrepancies. You know why that happens? Because it's all made up. But hamas is counting on you to keèp spreading the lies and you blindly oblige
Oh, stop waving The Children around. You don't care about The Children any more than Hamas does.
Lol!
Yes, the students and non-student protesters could leave if the water and power is cut off. The civilians in Gaza are trapped. (I assume the comment with "install a perimeter where nothing goes in or out," did not mean to trap the protesters inside so they could not leave.)
The civilians in Gaza have 57 Muslim nations that they could go to. Gaza has a border with Egypt.
Actually, the Egyptians do not want them either. Nor any other arab country. In this respect, they quietly side with Israel's opposition to these jihadists. Alonh with Jordan who banished hundred of thousands of Palestinians who tried to take them over too. If the useful idiots dropped their binary victim vs colonialist perspectives they might actually be open to the truth -- it is the battle between mid-evil jihadists and the world with support from libs who want to view the world in their wrong victim-colonialist marxist-like perspective.
It's Palestinian land. Why should they leave?
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946.
That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948 driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
Let me unpack this comment too...
It's Palestinian land. Why should they leave?
** Israel is not trying to take Gaza. They are destroying Hamas. You make up a lie and then argue against it.
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, at the Time of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 Israel violates in the letter and the Spirit, Jews made up only 17% of the population of Arab Palestine which increased to 28% in 1936. It was only 30% Jewish in 1946. That increased to 81% Jewish with the European Colonial invasion just 2 years later in 1948....
** Did you follow the huge migration of arabs into the area too? Were the new arabs colonialists? Why not? Oops. Does not fit nicely into your victim-colonialist box.
...driving Palestinians to flee to Egyptian Gaza.
** Oh. you mean the war of independence when the arabs got together to drive the 81% population of jews out of the area which ended up displacing hundreds of thousand of arabs and about a million jews who lived in arab lands for many centuries. So who is the victim? Not everyone?
Why should they let Israel drive them out again, and why should the Arab Nations help Israel do it?
** Again, refuting a lie you make up. Unless driving out radical extremists equals driving out Palestinians. Do you think all arabs are jihadist extremists?
** sorry to break the news, most historical situations do not fit nicely into the colonialist-victim box.
Yes, it is my understanding the Palestinians are as unwelcome in the Muslims nations as the Eastern European Jews were unwelcome in so many nations at the time of the Holocaust. The Palestinians seem to have behaved badly and gotten a bad reputation for undermining the nations they had been welcomed into, also somewhat like the Eastern European Jews.
How many Eastern European Jews committed mass murders?
How many Eastern European Jews were Marxists/ communists? How many Eastern European Jews joined or aligned with the Bolsheviks? The Bolsheviks were the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, killing at least 20 million people within their empire.
One could also ask "How many Palestinians committed mass murders?"
How many supporters and fellow travellers does a mass murderer need to do their deeds?
At worst, Tricia D, the jews in Russia were useful idiots. Perhaps you should watch Fiddler In The Roof. When they went to Israel to set up their "communist" kibutzim, they set up peaceful communities. The killing in Russia was in conflict with jewish culture. But I agree many jews in Russia were communists. But after they were used to create regime change, many were sent to the gulags. They were not a part of the killing of millions. You can call jews useful idiots and idealistic fools if you must, but jews are not murderers nor hateful, unlike the jihadists you support so proudly.
"Fiddler on the Roof"? I hope you are making a joke and do not get your understanding of history from fiction.
1) Ethnic Jews were very much part of the killing of millions in Soviet Union so arguing it was against "jewish culture" is meaningless. Maybe it is "against jewish culture" to publicly, directly kill people, but not to create a famine in which millions die of starvation or enslave people and work them to death in freezing conditions.
2) Irgun, the Jewish terrorist organization in 1930's Palestine before Israel was created used an emblem showing a simple graphic map of "Greater Israel" and a rifle with the words "With this". They were terrorists They did bombings, often disguising themselves as Muslims to shift blame.
3) Certainly the highest level of the Jewish organization that became the Israeli government approved poisoning the water supply of the German POWs after WW II and poisoning the wells of Palestinians during what is called the 'Nakba". These were intended as secret actions so it seems once again, it is not "against jewish culture" to kill, only to be publicly be seen to kill.
Jews are as much murderers and as hateful as any other group. Maybe the only difference is they have either genuinely convinced themselves they are not or simply devote more effort to concealment of their murders and hates from outsiders.
Me saying that does not mean I support the jihadists and your effort to define me that way is a creepy.