Since the late 1940s, there have been small numbers of experts in the West studying the phenomena surrounding the Rape of the Mind (as Joost Meerloo put it). Some of them walk amongst you.
None of this comes from new ideas brought out by Chris Rufo or Shellenberger or Mattias Desmet or the new "Yuri Bezmenov". These ideas have been studied and untangled to a great extent over the past 75 years or more. Farther back than that, actually. It's just that most people had no interest in learning about any of it until it hits close to home.
Agreed! The words I hear are; "what does that have to do with me". to that I reply; not everything is about us. Think of what it will mean to our children, grandchildren & our country.
Precisely so. I have had this friendly argument with our PCA pastor, saying that while our first mission is bringing the truth of the gospel to sinners, our second and equally important mission is defending the culture from the barbarians who would toss folks of faith - alongside MEI folks - into the arena with the lions, while the MSM broadcast the circus live.
Said another way, look me in the eye and tell me you really do not want to protect your kids and grandkids from this shytshow-on-steroids.
I like to check out both sides & it's clear to me there's what George Carlin would call "soft speech" intertwined in the DEI agenda. I'm watching Lindsay now! https://youtu.be/xbby7yFrIxM?si=2Hj6s8_UxGVl6QOC
James Lindsay offers what amounts to a course in Political Totalitarianism 101....how it works.
I wish he had a better comment section, but apart from that.....he is good! And I do not offer compliments in this field readily. Ask anyone on my various platforms....😁
I encourage people to watch/listen/read that material whenever they have the time. It is challenging university undergrad level, and sometimes beyond. Offers a good grounding in these terms and concepts.
And... he's politically a lefty - for the most part. I do think that needle is moving though - lol. Lest people say "Oh well he's a rightwing nutjob, of course he hates commies." etc.
Brainwashing/Thought Reform is fairly simple, if you know how. You're tweaking particular brain systems. Certain manipulation tactics will do that. And because of the way in which humans were developed evolution-wise, it works.
I roll my eyes when I hear some folk state that "brainwashing" is a hoax. Why say that? Never learned any basic Neuroscience?
I have been through modern "struggle sessions" too. I have seen previously normal, mainstream adults break down sobbing. It is common when the lefties get to Lifton's Confession stage of the Thought Reform process.
But seriously... from James Lindsay's site: "One of the most famous and most evil techniques of Maoist Marxism is the “struggle session” (dòuzhēng, 鬥爭; or pīpàn dòuzhēng, 批判鬥爭, “critical struggle”; or sometimes just pīdòu, 批鬥; also called “denunciation” sessions). They were made famous during Mao’s Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), but they were utilized in the Chinese thought-reform (xǐnǎo, 洗脑, lit. “wash brain” or brainwashing) prisons starting in the early 1950s under the CCP. The nature of struggle sessions must be understood clearly in 2022 because Western nations are going through a “Woke” Maoist insurgency now, and the struggle session is all the way back in fashion (and has been for some time). Since being banned and returning to Twitter following Elon Musk’s acquisition, host of the New Discourses Podcast, James Lindsay, has been subjected to a rather brutal online struggle session (a “twitter storm” as a harassment campaign) in the attempt to punish him back off the site and to discredit his highly effective popularization of the term “groomer” for Maoist ideological groomers, especially those using Queer Marxism. In this groundbreaking episode of the podcast, James goes through the struggle session he’s currently experiencing while tying it to the psychological analysis of that phenomenon as presented in Robert Jay Lifton’s book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of “Brainwashing” in China. Join him to learn about this destructive form of bullying activism and to learn how you can resist it."
My own experience happened during a webinar at the college at which I was employed, during the height of the George Floyd psyops, and the pushing of Critical Race Theory into colleges, in 2019-2020. As A. mentions above, it's adults flaggelating themselves for stuff they never were guilty of but now feel they must certainly be (it only seems to happen to "privileged whites," of course). In any case, that podcast I linked to is very long but you'll definitely get it after diving in.
The Catholic Confession of my youth was very mild and benevolent in comparison to this. These totalitarian struggle sessions/Confessions give people nervous breakdowns!
That's what they're designed to do, after all, isn't it? I think of MKUltra programming too, which is the next level personality-destroying tactic. Lots of people have been subjected to that, with incredibly bad outcomes.
A few weeks ago I was re-reading the material on the Montreal Experiments:
Between 1957 and 1964 (though possibly beginning as early as 1948), psychiatric experiments were conducted at the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal — a psychiatric teaching hospital affiliated with McGill University. Scottish-American psychiatrist Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron led and conducted these experiments. The program is widely believed to have been partly funded by the United States Central Intelligence Agency as part of their top-secret MKULTRA program. The Canadian government also funded the project. The experiments’ purpose was originally and officially listed as an effort to find a cure for schizophrenia. However, in reality, the project conducted illegal human experimentation to determine whether drugs and psychological techniques could be used for the purposes of mind control.
The CIA doesn't even bother to hide their "programs" like MKUltra and Mockingbird, etc. And it was also easy enough to discover that Ted Kazinsky (unibomber) and Ted Bundy were both in an MKUltra program when they were in university. Certain types were targeted. Some say there are many "programmed" people (think sleeper cells) in the US, as many as 30K. They also use MKultra programming on lots of famous entertainers. If one starts in, the rabbit hole goes pretty deep. I have an 800 page book that a guy named H.P. Abarelli wrote documenting many of the CIA's programs (most prominently, the famous Frank Olsen case with LSD, etc.) since around 1948. It's not for the faint of heart. We are being experimented on all the time.
I am not as familiar with the MK Ultra programming as other aspects. I know the basics of that, but not a whole lot of detail. I read the David McGowan book at some point -- "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon', which suggested the CIA overlap with the entertainment world. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”. Isn't that the truth?
I'm a huge David McGowan fan, not so much for the MKUltra stuff but a lot of his work (including the one you mention). My fav is "Wagging the Moondoggie."
There is another recent book on the use of Lifton's Eight Criteria for mind-control. The book is reasonably good, although the author ultimately jumps from the frying pan into the fire by believing that by leaving the cultish right-wing Mormon Church, all her troubles were over. Her bio. on the back cover talks about going WOKE. So she still does not yet understand that totalitarianism can appear at either end of left-right spectrum. Worth a read, though.
"Recovering Agency: Lifting the Veil of Mormon Mind Control" – Luna Lindsey Corbden
Same. Worked in the animal rights world - yeeeesh. AND a feminism group. That was the WORST. Well, it cured me of ever thinking I'm a feminist, anyway.
Good description, Mary Rose. I have read Lifton's classic 1961 book a number of times, and I find the list of "Eight Criteria" (internet) a good summary of the highlights of the actual process. There is a well-written explanation of the Eight Criteria by British Psychotherapist Sue Parker Hall on Hartgroup.org.
Dave, Everything that's happening is designed to destroy whites and the civilization we've created over the centuries! No sentient being can believe DEI and affirmative action are anything other than communist weapons of destruction.
Marie: DEI sucks but carelessly throwing around the word communism also sucks.
James Lindsay has successfully connected DEI/ESG/CRT with Cultural Marxism and communism. I don't think Marie G is exaggerating in the least.
James Lindsay is a relative newcomer in commenting on and explaining this field....but he is very good! And he's right.
P.S.
Since the late 1940s, there have been small numbers of experts in the West studying the phenomena surrounding the Rape of the Mind (as Joost Meerloo put it). Some of them walk amongst you.
None of this comes from new ideas brought out by Chris Rufo or Shellenberger or Mattias Desmet or the new "Yuri Bezmenov". These ideas have been studied and untangled to a great extent over the past 75 years or more. Farther back than that, actually. It's just that most people had no interest in learning about any of it until it hits close to home.
Agreed! The words I hear are; "what does that have to do with me". to that I reply; not everything is about us. Think of what it will mean to our children, grandchildren & our country.
Precisely so. I have had this friendly argument with our PCA pastor, saying that while our first mission is bringing the truth of the gospel to sinners, our second and equally important mission is defending the culture from the barbarians who would toss folks of faith - alongside MEI folks - into the arena with the lions, while the MSM broadcast the circus live.
Said another way, look me in the eye and tell me you really do not want to protect your kids and grandkids from this shytshow-on-steroids.
I like to check out both sides & it's clear to me there's what George Carlin would call "soft speech" intertwined in the DEI agenda. I'm watching Lindsay now! https://youtu.be/xbby7yFrIxM?si=2Hj6s8_UxGVl6QOC
James Lindsay offers what amounts to a course in Political Totalitarianism 101....how it works.
I wish he had a better comment section, but apart from that.....he is good! And I do not offer compliments in this field readily. Ask anyone on my various platforms....😁
Keep watching James Lindsay, Edward.
Very well put. He has a few years' worth of course-level learning and lectures now at New Discourses, along with accompanying videos.
I encourage people to watch/listen/read that material whenever they have the time. It is challenging university undergrad level, and sometimes beyond. Offers a good grounding in these terms and concepts.
And... he's politically a lefty - for the most part. I do think that needle is moving though - lol. Lest people say "Oh well he's a rightwing nutjob, of course he hates commies." etc.
Yes, he began on the left. Much like Shellenberger and several others. I think that JL's own material has convinced him to move along the spectrum!
As Lindsay and many others have moved me along. And bless C.S. Lewis for leading me back to God, which is the most important thing.
I agree with you on both counts, Mary Rose.
Brainwashing/Thought Reform is fairly simple, if you know how. You're tweaking particular brain systems. Certain manipulation tactics will do that. And because of the way in which humans were developed evolution-wise, it works.
I roll my eyes when I hear some folk state that "brainwashing" is a hoax. Why say that? Never learned any basic Neuroscience?
And, if you had ever had to sit through a modern "struggle session" as I have, you'd probably have a different opinion...
I have been through modern "struggle sessions" too. I have seen previously normal, mainstream adults break down sobbing. It is common when the lefties get to Lifton's Confession stage of the Thought Reform process.
What is a "struggle session"?
Puke-worthy.
LOL, sorry I couldn't resist.
But seriously... from James Lindsay's site: "One of the most famous and most evil techniques of Maoist Marxism is the “struggle session” (dòuzhēng, 鬥爭; or pīpàn dòuzhēng, 批判鬥爭, “critical struggle”; or sometimes just pīdòu, 批鬥; also called “denunciation” sessions). They were made famous during Mao’s Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), but they were utilized in the Chinese thought-reform (xǐnǎo, 洗脑, lit. “wash brain” or brainwashing) prisons starting in the early 1950s under the CCP. The nature of struggle sessions must be understood clearly in 2022 because Western nations are going through a “Woke” Maoist insurgency now, and the struggle session is all the way back in fashion (and has been for some time). Since being banned and returning to Twitter following Elon Musk’s acquisition, host of the New Discourses Podcast, James Lindsay, has been subjected to a rather brutal online struggle session (a “twitter storm” as a harassment campaign) in the attempt to punish him back off the site and to discredit his highly effective popularization of the term “groomer” for Maoist ideological groomers, especially those using Queer Marxism. In this groundbreaking episode of the podcast, James goes through the struggle session he’s currently experiencing while tying it to the psychological analysis of that phenomenon as presented in Robert Jay Lifton’s book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of “Brainwashing” in China. Join him to learn about this destructive form of bullying activism and to learn how you can resist it."
https://newdiscourses.com/2022/12/surviving-a-modern-struggle-session/
My own experience happened during a webinar at the college at which I was employed, during the height of the George Floyd psyops, and the pushing of Critical Race Theory into colleges, in 2019-2020. As A. mentions above, it's adults flaggelating themselves for stuff they never were guilty of but now feel they must certainly be (it only seems to happen to "privileged whites," of course). In any case, that podcast I linked to is very long but you'll definitely get it after diving in.
The Catholic Confession of my youth was very mild and benevolent in comparison to this. These totalitarian struggle sessions/Confessions give people nervous breakdowns!
That's what they're designed to do, after all, isn't it? I think of MKUltra programming too, which is the next level personality-destroying tactic. Lots of people have been subjected to that, with incredibly bad outcomes.
A few weeks ago I was re-reading the material on the Montreal Experiments:
Between 1957 and 1964 (though possibly beginning as early as 1948), psychiatric experiments were conducted at the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal — a psychiatric teaching hospital affiliated with McGill University. Scottish-American psychiatrist Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron led and conducted these experiments. The program is widely believed to have been partly funded by the United States Central Intelligence Agency as part of their top-secret MKULTRA program. The Canadian government also funded the project. The experiments’ purpose was originally and officially listed as an effort to find a cure for schizophrenia. However, in reality, the project conducted illegal human experimentation to determine whether drugs and psychological techniques could be used for the purposes of mind control.
The CIA doesn't even bother to hide their "programs" like MKUltra and Mockingbird, etc. And it was also easy enough to discover that Ted Kazinsky (unibomber) and Ted Bundy were both in an MKUltra program when they were in university. Certain types were targeted. Some say there are many "programmed" people (think sleeper cells) in the US, as many as 30K. They also use MKultra programming on lots of famous entertainers. If one starts in, the rabbit hole goes pretty deep. I have an 800 page book that a guy named H.P. Abarelli wrote documenting many of the CIA's programs (most prominently, the famous Frank Olsen case with LSD, etc.) since around 1948. It's not for the faint of heart. We are being experimented on all the time.
I am not as familiar with the MK Ultra programming as other aspects. I know the basics of that, but not a whole lot of detail. I read the David McGowan book at some point -- "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon', which suggested the CIA overlap with the entertainment world. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”. Isn't that the truth?
I'm a huge David McGowan fan, not so much for the MKUltra stuff but a lot of his work (including the one you mention). My fav is "Wagging the Moondoggie."
I don't know "Wagging the Moondoggie." I must add a few more McGowan titles to my reading stack.
There is another recent book on the use of Lifton's Eight Criteria for mind-control. The book is reasonably good, although the author ultimately jumps from the frying pan into the fire by believing that by leaving the cultish right-wing Mormon Church, all her troubles were over. Her bio. on the back cover talks about going WOKE. So she still does not yet understand that totalitarianism can appear at either end of left-right spectrum. Worth a read, though.
"Recovering Agency: Lifting the Veil of Mormon Mind Control" – Luna Lindsey Corbden
I experienced modern struggle sessions run by various ethnic minority groups, under the auspices of non-profits.
Same. Worked in the animal rights world - yeeeesh. AND a feminism group. That was the WORST. Well, it cured me of ever thinking I'm a feminist, anyway.
You can be proud of yourself for having the guts to remove yourself from all of this. Hats off to you!
Good description, Mary Rose. I have read Lifton's classic 1961 book a number of times, and I find the list of "Eight Criteria" (internet) a good summary of the highlights of the actual process. There is a well-written explanation of the Eight Criteria by British Psychotherapist Sue Parker Hall on Hartgroup.org.
https://www.hartgroup.org/help-or-harm-2/
Oh thanks! Appreciate it.
Check out Steven Hicks or Jordan Peterson on Postmodernism. Putting us against each other & dividing us, gets them more money & power.
Dave, Everything that's happening is designed to destroy whites and the civilization we've created over the centuries! No sentient being can believe DEI and affirmative action are anything other than communist weapons of destruction.