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Kestutis of Tampa's avatar

I bet Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could benefit from a plagiarism audit.

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Scott Gibb's avatar

"My biggest concern," said Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson on Monday, "is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways." https://reason.com/2024/03/19/hamstringing-the-government-a-viral-narrative-distorts-ketanji-brown-jacksons-understanding-of-free-speech/

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Kestutis of Tampa's avatar

Everytime she opens her mouth or applies herself to her keyboard, she reveals her abject ignorance. I would bet Bitcoin to donuts she was gifted passing grades because of identity politics.

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Scott Gibb's avatar

Who will start the Substack that brings attention to bad ideas espoused by any of the Supreme Court Justices?

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Elizabeth Rome's avatar

Why Supreme Court Justices? Why not DEI appointments?

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Scott Gibb's avatar

Both.

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me's avatar

It is frustrating to see that we have someone in that position who either doesn't know, doesn't understand or doesn't believe that the original intent is important.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Well, what do you expect from a woman who cannot give the definition of “a woman?”

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Scott Gibb's avatar

Yep. These aren’t difficult concepts. They can be taught to elementary school children. I blame state funding of education. We need school choice and direct payment between family and educator. When the government is in charge of education this is what happens.

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Jessica J's avatar

More like doesn't care and thought she'd get away with it. The agenda is the most important thing. Notice how the people who have their work lifted never complain. It's a network of narrative push and the ultimate goal is the Commie States of America. Subversion Agent Caught should be the headline.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

I N think she needs a remedial course in constitutional law 101

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Scott Gibb's avatar

Haha. Too late for that!

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Steenroid's avatar

I thought Washington was only state where you didn’t have to pass the bar. Evidently it’s been going on for years.

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

When asked to define plagiarism, Justice Brown said she could not as she wasn’t a Harvard professor.

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Andy's avatar

You read my mind!

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Dave's avatar

I once had to take an "on the spot", no-warning oral exam to disprove an accusation of cheating.

The basis of the accusation? I would wear my dirty mechanic's uniform to class, and my professor didn't think I was intellectually capable of the papers I was turning in.

I could have been expelled if I'd shown up hungry or hungover.

These DEI people at HARVARD are getting the pass after actually cheating and plagiarizing their way through school and into their jobs! There's incontrovertible evidence, and they're still there. Crazy.

Leftist demagogues value ideology over anything else. This is the Left, in a nutshell. And they must be taken down.

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Cranky Frankie's avatar

Work clothes marked you as naturally unworthy.

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Clay's avatar

Elitism at its finest. "Smart people don't worn with their hands." Meanwhile these twats couldn't change their car's HVAC filter.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Copy pasta word salad all the way down. AI would write better recursive NPC code. Our first ever National youth poet laureate who spoke at Biden’s inauguration went to Harvard. Leftist patronage networks are grooming her to become the next Claudine Gay or Barack Obama, as she plans to run for President in 2036: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/youth-poet-laureate-commissar-amanda-gorman

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Roger Beal's avatar

"The new KKK: Kamala/Karine/Ketanji". Fair warning, Yuri: I'm agonna plagiarize that bit of brilliance.

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Jamal X's avatar

Many white folks got off on lynching and castrating black folks. Black pregnant women had their fetuses cut from their wombs and stomped on. Young white kids were encouraged to view the brutal carnage, especially after Sunday School. The horror...the horror...the horror!

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JWSPOONERMD's avatar

Still living those horrors Jefferson? You sound pretty privileged, don’t you think? No bio? Who are you— Monty Python?

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Elizabeth Rome's avatar

It is brilliantly accurate! I'm gonna use it too

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Systemic? . . And what should we expect if there’s no punishment, it seems so strange to say that Harvard has low standards. Is this so only for POCs (this sounds racist, I Know, but it’s not; we have to be able to express reality). Is plagiarism in the black community proportionate to street crime?

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Cranky Frankie's avatar

It does tend to elevate non-minority ivy graduates without famous relatives. To make the cut means you have to be some kind of very special, very talented applicant.

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Jamal X's avatar

Most of the child molesters on my prison caseload were disapportionstely white males, similar the to the predominantly southern white community I currently live in.

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Jessica J's avatar

I was hoping to see you here! Another Harvard Subversion Agent Caught should be shouted from the rooftops. Her work and the work she lifted has done so much damage to citizens everywhere in the country. Narrative push and continuation of the grift is all that matters to the social justice chattering class. Lives destroyed they don't care and with the way the courts are used and have been do we need to be so quick to judge someone as a criminal if all the facts are unknown. Due process is dead and has been and most people don't have the money to fight it, then it's double jeopardy due to victim culture and societal standing all affecting life,liberty and pursuit of happiness. The DOJ and social justice crowd have found a way around double jeopardy and that it's been used in the way it has to subvert due process and right to defend and even profer evidence and adequate counsel is something that should trouble us all with the kangaroo courts running the land and we the people never knowing when the target will be put on our back.

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Jamal X's avatar

A typical white supremacist!

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JWSPOONERMD's avatar

Living the life, aren’t you? Plagiarism par excellence calling Yuri a “white supremacist.” = direct plagiarism

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Jamal X's avatar

Whites have been plagiarizing black inventions in America since 1619, starting with rice cultivation in South Carolina which came from Africa. The list is endless.

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working rich's avatar

DEI people never become DIE people. They just keep moseying along.

I was cited in September of my freshman year of college( 1964) for not citing things properly. Learned my lesson early.

No one ever challenges these affirmative action babies. That's the problem

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Graham Cunningham's avatar

DEI has a long pre-history in our long ago corrupted monasteries of groupthink. To take just one example....how did someone as emotionally and intellectually screwed up as Judith Butler ever get to be deemed a 'high-powered academic'; a 'scholar'; a 'philosopher' for Christ's sake?

Had she presented herself at any academic institution worthy of the name all those years ago she would have been told politely that the academic life was not for her - and then suggesting a good psychotherapist where she might get some help with her personal hang ups. In other words, long before the DEI bureaucratic monster, Western universities were already filling up with people whose only recommendation was that they were as full of shit as the people interviewing and appointing them.

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

Butler cashed in on an academic fashion trend--Postmodernism and the invasion of the French deconstructionists. The humanities have been gutted, hollowed out by neo-Marxist critique, a cynical method of analysis that consists of shitting on everything, that "subverts" and "problematizes" everything it comes across. Confusing the map for the territory, critical theorists believe that since language is an arbitrary set of symbols, that nothing expressed in language is real or has meaning and all their analysis strives to demonstrate this.

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Graham Cunningham's avatar

Yes but my main point here is that over and above all of that....she's clearly not very bright....not very good at noticing reality and distinguishing it from her own wishful-thinking screw-up notions. Academia should at least be a place for the brightest; not the thickest.

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

"If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit."

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Jamal X's avatar

White meritocracy along with 240 years of Black chattel slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow? Whites needed slaves and subjugation to do their work. What a bunch of bullshit.

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JWSPOONERMD's avatar

By the way, Jefferson, in case you don’t realize it: only Democrats were slaveholders in America, no Republicans. Secondly, only Democrat politicians wrote Jim Crow laws, no Republicans. Thirdly, MLK was a Republican until the 60s when Biden and his Democrat cronies one of them a KKK member Got him to change parties so they would pass the 1964 civil rights act. Did you know that Jefferson? let’s see what Jefferson knows behind all his ranting against white folk and black conservatives.

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JWSPOONERMD's avatar

Let’s talk about black on black slavery in Africa, shall we? Or in the USA? Read “Black Slaveowners” by Larry Roger; “Slavery and Slavery in African History” by Stilwell. Educate yourself Jefferson.

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URsomoney's avatar

My kid was challenged in high school - rightfully so & the right time to learn this lesson as a teenager….but he’s also a white male.

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Pinebeetle's avatar

They now know that if they get caught they can still get a job with United Airlines

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Tara Wegner's avatar

And why are those four still employed at Harvard, while Martin Kulldorff is fired? Because Harvard rewards plagiarists and punishes original thinkers.

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

And because the presence of honest scholars like Kulldorf threatens the canned ideologists of race and identity who have nothing to offer besides their cloak of victimology.

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Elizabeth Rome's avatar

LPP = Liberal Protection Program

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Jrod's avatar

Well yeah, when you get a PhD in a fraudulent field of study, expect fraud.

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Jerome Armstrong's avatar

She changed "almost" to "nearly" and called it a paragraph. If they ignore, this is setting precedents that will have to hold in the future or face lawsuits. Students will have a hayday in courts.

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Mad Dog's avatar

Perhaps. But are judges ready to overrule Harvard, if Harvard says the students are plagiarists and the professors aren't? Are judges ready to rock the DEI fraud to its core? At least so far, the faculty who have been accused are all deeply involved in DEI initiatives and, just as important, benefited from DEI themselves.

Many judges are Ivy League products, and that's likely to be especially true in New England where these cases would be filed. I don't think they have the integrity to damage Harvard's reputation that much. Think for a moment about the Colorado Supreme Court taking Trump off the ballot, the decision that the Supreme Court reversed 9-0. Every one of those judges was a Democrat. But all of the judges who voted to take Trump off were Ivy League educated. The ones from other schools voted to keep him on. Look who had respect for the law and the Constitution and look who didn't.

I don't have much of a track record for predicting the future, but we're likely to be looking to Ivy League federal judges to have integrity and respect for the law to rule for the students in these cases. I don't think they have it. I think the students are likely to lose.

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working rich's avatar

Look at the radical and crazy people Biden nominates for federal judge positions!

Even Ketanji who won't say what a woman is!

Insane

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Pinebeetle's avatar

Well you have to give her a break after all she’s not a biologist, just ask her.

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Cranky Frankie's avatar

Expulsion or other sanctions for plagiarism are easily justified by a look at the student's submitted work. Making a case that the sanction(s) are wrongful because the University forgave others for similar is likely to be hard. Students sign onto a honor code or to abide by the precepts of a student handbook. I assume faculty do as well at some level, perhaps by contract, but there is enormous pressure to sweep this stuff under the rug. Only the internet has thrown sand into those gears. Buffett was speaking of a different issue but his quote is apt.

"When the tide goes out you discover who is swimming naked."

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Andy's avatar

You’d think the Ivy League grads would want to preserve the integrity of their alma mater by adhering to its traditional standards, not supporting the usurpers.

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Cranky Frankie's avatar

They've got kids who want the Harvard sheepskin.

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Pinebeetle's avatar

Meritocracy is dead at Harvard

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

Students would be well-advised to avoid — like the plague — institutions such as Harvard that traffic in such garbage. And parents and alumni should refuse to pay for it. Unfortunately government subsidies, taxing the earnings of honest workers, still supports this nonsense. Next agenda item is to get rid of that funding source.

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Zefram's avatar

We’re racing to the bottom

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Mad Dog's avatar

And every time we believe that we've hit bottom and can sink no lower, somebody from Harvard comes along and proves we're wrong.

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Project Luminas's avatar

Cross: ‘I’m’ racing to the bottom. Cross literally swapped 1st person singular and plural pronouns to claim other’s words verbatim as her own. Damn. Blatantly plagiarized. Another Harvard example to show my first-year writing students what NOT to do.

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Pinebeetle's avatar

It’s already there.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I remember getting on F in a paper I wrote in Jr. College simply because I used MLA instead of APA or vice versa. I was supposed to use a certain format and I got it mixed up.

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Tim Penning, PHD's avatar

We now go from what communication scholars like me would call an “episodic” to a “thematic” frame. Which means there is a pattern of plagiarism here, not isolated incidents. And frankly it’s not surprising in the area of critical studies, because critical theory is based on “reason” and assumption and assertion, not empiricism. So there is nothing new, just a tautological, circular reasoning. A repetition of previous baseless claims. The “evidence” is to cite false claims. And to appear to be doing original scholarship on a subject that has run its course they almost can’t help copying the “critical scholarship” of others. Keep exposing it—your work ads empirical evidence to the questioning assumptions of critical theory.

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Project Luminas's avatar

Now imagine my entire discipline (rhetoric and writing) choosing to only cite scholars of color, to openly erase ‘dead white males’ from Aristotle to Kenneth Burke from their journals’ pages: it’s called citation justice. Tautological scholarship based on a racist paradigm.

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Elizabeth Rome's avatar

This octogenarian calls it racing to the bottom.

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Michele's avatar

When I taught, although my reading list was quite 'diverse' (aka not only straight, white, and male), I was nonetheless chided for including Dreiser on it.

Funniest thing though: those Sister Carrie excerpts about a naive girl getting hit on by a city slicker, and pounding the pavement looking for work? Yielded one of the BEST class discussion we had. Everyone (no matter their special protected categories) could identify.

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Project Luminas's avatar

Thought police came after you for Sister Carrie? And it produced best discussion ever? Haven’t read it. But you might be happy to know I will now!

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Michele's avatar

Wonderful! It is a great book. Of its time, no doubt, and yet also....exploring eternal conundra.

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

Exactly — well put.

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Timothy G McKenna's avatar

Professors can be unbelievably lazy (not all of them). Two points:

1) My nephew went through Harvard and never had a class actually taught, directly, by a professor- every one of his 32 courses were taught by graduate students.

2) in 1982, I had a classmate at the Yale School of Art & Architecture who designed a graceful, deft solution to a class assignment for an “insertion” in a large room that would be used to split the space into four functional spaces. Our critic, Giuseppe Z (who has passed away), swooned over the design - it really was graceful.

About 8 months later, Giuseppe was featured in the NYT for his elegant solution to a loft design featuring my friend’s design, lock, stock, and barrel.

We pointed this out to our dean, who shrugged and essentially told us that it happened all the time and that our classmate should be flattered.

I don’t know if universities have outlived their usefulness and have become hopelessly sclerotic, but lack of accountability in academia has now spread into society and has just ruined things.

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Lysander Spoonbread's avatar

grad student work published by supervising tenured profs under the prof's name. Legion.

Alex Haley.

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Pinebeetle's avatar

Facebook comes to mind. Zuckerberg did the same thing

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Scott Gibb's avatar

These plagiarism cases should cause us to ponder even bigger questions. What value are these people adding to our lives? None. Who is paying these people? You. Your hard-earned tax dollars pay for these useless things to be written. Compare what you do with what they do. They read stuff, change the wording and put their name on it. And they don’t even do that well. You, on the other hand, add value to our lives. Don’t let these people waste your money. Thank you for bringing this to our attention Christopher.

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Peter Daniel Miller's avatar

These plagiarists are adding negative value by bringing a once-honest university into disrepute, and by devaluing the honest work done by all who are associated with it. Also, like the whole racial quota system from which it is derived, promotion and retention of plagiarists displaces the work of those who do add real value.

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Elizabeth Rome's avatar

Not enough --to say don't let them "waste your money.." there needs to be consequences for ..bad behavior --or it won't stop!

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Scott Gibb's avatar

Biggest consequence is to cut off state funding to education.

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james's avatar

Isn't Harvard flush with cash because of a huge endowment? Yes, it might hurt a little, but they can ride it out.

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Scott Gibb's avatar

True. The endowment causes problems too.

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Janice LeCocq's avatar

“Fomby served on Cross’s dissertation committee”! So, Fomby either didn’t read the dissertation with all the plagiarism or condoned it.

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Dan Sleezer's avatar

Lazy, lazy, lazy!!!! Originality is too difficult when you can just Copy/Paste.

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Jessica J's avatar

Be relentless in calling them out. Her work and the work she used has helped usher in ruination and despair for millions of Americans. Slay the social justice warriors with your mighty pen sir!! Great job.

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GG's avatar

Must be difficult to write papers when you haven't an original, creative idea in your head!

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