Jordan Peterson postulates that they're not actually getting rid of the ideology. They're shuttering the department and it's name because it's become so toxic, but they're just moving the DEI workers to other departments and hiding the marxist movement as they continue their work.
Also, Peterson is in Canada - I've NO DOUBT that's what will happen there. They are farther down the commie path than we are in the US, from what I'm seeing.
I find that statement more than a little ironic because DEI is exactly what China and the CCP would NEVER do. For them, hiring, firing, promoting based on say, homosexuality, would seem insane.
Sooner or later someone will have to square that circle and decide which group, the CCP or the SJWs are the Marxists, because it can't be both.
It's so bad that the MAID* program is going to end up fulfilling Gates' fantasy of population reduction. It seems Depressed or suffering people are offered the chance to be scheduled for MAID by social workers, nurses, nurse practitioners, and lots of apparatnicks in Canada. That's what I'm reading. It's not even safe to be an autistic lonely child.
Yes, they are killing off the depressed, old, sick, etc. Isn't euth great? Just like Kurt Vonnegut promised us. I think he called them Suicide "Salons".
I don’t think McCarthyism is linked to the actual evils of communism. He was overzealous and hurt many Americans in his zeal for private beliefs that brought no harm. McCarthy- bad, Communism- bad. Not an oxymoron.
the word gets used very loosely - like the 'capitalists' word... don't worry - i am not alan lomax, or pete seeger who you probably would have chased out of town if you were around at the time...
he wasn't correct..he was selling fear.. it seems a lot of folks like being sold on fear... that is what the usa war industry is built on.. the media has pretty good success with it too..
That's probably what some companies are doing - but I am guessing the corporations who are only giving it lip service at best and have more autonomy might just kick it to the curb.
I don't know. I think if there is a tipping point - yes. There can also be a pushback - which could make it worse. I am banking on the former! Honestly, why is such a proven disaster still in use??
Yes, the unwritten policies followed, like all the whistleblowers that testify and I experience in mid 1980's of the White male hate and feminist genocidal policy of rejecting employment applications from White men automatically. Now it's excused for DEI, tomorrows we all gone so not need.
Adam Smith wrote: "there's a lot of ruin in a nation" I suspect the same thing applies to large corporations. Will they change? Only if they face an existential crisis, and for a large company, that can take a while.
We see it in defense research and our lack of hypersonic defense or offense, with the failure to hire on merit, so the backbone of excellence - White men - were rejected based on race and those that were hired or already functioning well were surrounded by meritless resent-filled drama & abuse distracting co-workers.
I think that if they lose enough money, they will. It would also help if more people harmed by these policies would come out with their stories, even anonymously. There are also companies who never wanted it to begin with who felt pressured, so they have an out right now if they seize it. Lawsuits for discrimination are important, too. Two things companies don't want to do are lose money and have bad publicity. Unfortunately, many Americans are followers and for those companies, you have to laugh and mock them. It's the only thing that works.
It is still terrifying to think that companies we entrust with our lives accept mediocrity and even worse, incompetence, for the sake of nonsensical social goals. So glad this seems to be winding down.
Education has been going downhill since before DEI, so it's hard to figure how much of it is the DEI. But DEI is certainly part of the decline of education.
agreed. Removing the Federal government from its management, as well as increasing competition with charter and other private schools, would go a long way towards improving the results of public schools.
Positively! As this article points out--meritocracy is the key to quality and success --and COMPETITION (school choice) will definitely improve education while being fair to all.
Public education started going downhill with the creation of the Department of Education--and I say this as a former school board and State Board of Ed member. President-elect Trump just announced ending the Dept. of Ed and sending education decisions back to the States. Two great results from that: (1) Parents will have a bigger voice in their children's education...quality should improve (2) the teachers Unions will be gone.
Driving out men from the profession and crushing all remaining that do not conform with local Witch's direction in crushing the minds of the students demands Homeschooling and alternatives. Professional teachers are walking Satanic minions and soul-life destroyers.
ESG/CEI scores are what drives this. Example: Southwest Airlines suffered a $2B loss at the end of 2022. Executives still received a $9M in combined bonuses, only fueled by good ESG scores. Despite it being the most profitable year in SWA history prior to the meltdown, employees received peanuts in profit sharing because of the major loss.
As you know better than most, Socratease, what is rewarded is done. The idea that airline companies will be great because of high ESG and DEI scores is thorough nonsense. They could easily have high scores as the planes are crashing all around them. We must ask, How long is stupid behavior going to occur? The Friendly Skies have become much riskier……
Why were so many people afraid to say: "the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.." for so long? Because the hyped up, screaming, uninformed liberals along with MSM ..and the weaponized government (going after parents at school board meetings) made it too difficult. Great that we can speak the truth now.
Recall those that did in good faith or struggling with inJustice were punished, with enough done so publicly to chill others. The clear viciousness and punishment results for taking employers at their word was incredible. As in the 'Google Memo' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber
I don’t know….many airlines are looking to DEI to produce superior airline companies. No flight experience? No problem: the pilot has her DEI certificate! Thank goodness we can now relax and eat peanuts…..
Memorize and share this brilliant and remarkably apt quote from the Boeing insider: "DEI is lazy thought leadership best practiced by companies in smooth waters with margins large enough to afford the associated inefficiency."
Or state run departments where profit is not what's needed, only toeing the received wisdom line. Our government departments in the UK are a prime example of this. The more DEI we get the worse the service they deliver gets.
Recall that Western society destroying, genocidal White Christians seeking Zionists owned Venture Capital Corp BlackRock that created a corp. 'Credit Score' that gives better scores the fewer White men are employed; low score threatens significant stock value decreases. We are all Palestinians now (and have always been.)
That is such an obvious downside of this policy. No one wants to be considered an “Identity Hire.” Especially when they have been hired on merits. I think it should be abolished for that reason alone.
I hope to hear the Trump administration announce that it is abolishing equity as an all of government policy, and returning to our Constitutional rights of equality under the law.
Exactly right. Under DEI, one can only assume that any minority is a diversity hire—it must be so. It pretty much says so in its own doctrine.
There’s a new-ish drama series about Julia Child. Her producer at PBS is a young black woman. In Boston. In like 1963. Let’s pretend the Civil Rights movement never happened; it was totally unnecessary!
The ridiculous implementation of DEI is ruining the brands of corporations. I suspect the C suites have known this for a long time and are letting out a sigh of relief that it is becoming socially acceptable to admit it. It has created a monster where management became paralyzed from conducting efficient and profitable business.
I don't know if the stories about Boeing's planes failing or falling apart were ever definitively linked to DEI, but it's sure a bad look to pour money into diversity while you can't keep aircraft in the sky.
Look to what is missing since Western Wide since Affirmative-Action implementation forced-injected below standard women and minority employees (due to so few to draw from) into white man virtue standard well-ordered productive workplaces when many women were Sick with 3rd wave feminism, destroying good order and productivity and unJustly denying qualified men those positions. Societal destruction.
Retired Boeing engineer here: I am a white female who was a successful software Engineer for 31 years, the last 21 at Boeing - achieving the rank of associate Technical Fellow in the late 20-teens. I “retired” at 57 in 2016 after many years as a pariah for being too outspoken about mismanagement such as daring to suggest so-called “diversity” groups (racially segregated) were the opposite of diversity. This discrimination against white people and rejection of merit started at Boeing around 2010 long before George Floyd. Incidentally I was also required to sign a paper saying I would not sue Boeing for age discrimination as a criteria to receive severance pay. No shock years later when planes were dropping out of the sky (I knew immediately it was a software bug) and we now have astronauts marooned on the International Space Station - I also worked on that project as a software lead but was let go after a successful CDR (actually notified during the CDR while on travel) because my salary was deemed “too high” (project was heavily staffed with contractors making 1/4 my pay with no benefits). Boeing has a long road back to being the company they were.
Sandy, you sound like the kind of qualified woman engineer that followed the established productive system that existed when you entered employment there when the corp. was less self-destructive. I have worked with only one Professional woman [engineer] that was as focused on getting work done well and efficiently as the men co-workers, The rest created a Toxic, often confusing, and abusive work-place. Is that anything you experienced? I have talked to women that want to work only with men for same.
Interesting comment Steven. I do prefer working with men because they tend to be more logical…like me. I’ve often thought I “think like a man.” Personality tests I took at work confirmed I am unusual, Myers’s Brigs INTJ. I thank God I wasn’t a teen in this toxic era because I would have undoubtedly been pressured by the alphabet people to “transition” despite the fact that I love being a woman. In any case, yes, I did experience a few toxic women (always in management) but also some other dedicated hardworking female engineers. Funny story, I once led a review team for a software upgrade of the B1 bomber. There were supposed to be 6 Technical Fellows on the team but only 3 of us showed up - all women. So us ladies just carried on and did the review. It was a blast. We never even talked about shoes if you can’t believe it ;-)
Thank you. So perfectly written and presented. Personally, I am encouraged. The majority are seeing it. I believe the Left will slowly and eventually eat their own if we just keep them away from our vital processes and pay them no attention. They're like mosquitoes. Somehow a part of nature. But irritating nonetheless. Keep the screens on your windows and the Deet handy.
Totally spot on. And yes, DEI will eventually die because it’s totally dumb and value destroying and insulting to both its beneficiaries and its victims.
This: "There is no way to keep production in focus while also allowing an externally focused bureaucracy with weak ideas to drive culture." I know Robby Starbuck has been instrumental in bringing down DEI in companies like John Deere. Did he have any impact on Boeing?
Corporations across the board can save millions by cutting the H/R depts. that have expanded into DEI workshops. Stop the required self flagellation of employees that only builds resentment towards the C suite for making them do so. Nobody wants to sit in a class and listen to how bad their ancestors were or be graded on their Privieledge.
And, have they even bothered to measure the number of really great employees they are NOT attracting by having this absolute nonsense front-and-center? I am a stellar employee with a lot of talent, and I was very close to not taking my current position (which I excel at) because of this crap. An more principled person may not have.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Anyone remember the 2017 'Google Memo' debacle and unJust firing, white man Engineer went to one of those 'Wack your white penis' DEI workshops - but Diversity they called it then - and they wanted feedback, so he did some good research about the subject, and the Truth and compliance to request got him fired.
All corporations are about profitability and pleasing the stockholders. From a corporate perspective DEI seemed to make sense to 1. Reduce risk (discrimination lawsuits) and 2. Improve marketing efforts (virtue signaling to consumers). I doubt most corporate executives really cared about the claimed social values of DEI. After implementing DEI and after a few years, corporations are beginning to recognize that 1. the marketing aspect of DEI is, at best, a double-edged sword, 2. There are unproductive expenses associated with DEI, 3. DEI is divisive and not going to help a corporate culture and 4. in some cases DEI hires will not be qualified to produce quality work.
Until we address where the monetary incentives are coming from, and put an end to it, I truly don't see DEI going away. Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street are major stock holders in all of these companies. Having the fiscal power larger than most countries, it will be difficult to break up these monopolies because they also have control over governments that are helping to push this crap.
they don't "hold" the shares, as much as they vote the shares of actual investors holding their index funds and etfs. We need to change the laws so that only direct shareholders can vote their shares.
...and while we're at it, we should ban lobbying so that the average citizen has more of a voice with their elected officials. Grassroots can rarely, if ever, beat a lobby group. COVID Vax mandates were a great example of that.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
The 'money is speech' and personhood rights to corporations turn them into Super-people, and immunity to owners and they are corporate-Dragons that owners can direct to destroy, poison, kill, .., for the owners. Satanic tool.
Yes, corp. law needs to change. 'money is Speech' has to be struck, external directors of our gov has to change.
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Positions of power over others - the holders should display virtue first, before allowed.
I would change that and many systems to require 4 years of local, national, international Service work to testify to Virtue, before allowed to have political power; voting, work for gov., run for office, and perhaps allowed to manage, and such power over others.
There is a fuller version of this idea, school ends at age 15, all required 2 2-year posting of choice, local or national, Service, if local then somewhere away from mother (parents, if Father not disposed of yet) where they away from our mostly sick Western mothers, aunts, .., and living in sex-separate dorms and food and a little spending money, and after those 4-years, as many 2-year terms of service of choice, including international, and after 2 extra years more than those first 4 earns you full citizen's rights. Training, education, and on-job experience optional.
With removal of money, set media hours, debates, and other changes,
.. do you think allow only those that care about others and community to vote result in better elected to office?
Is the cozy corporate fascist state we live in. Govt can't control speech (in theory) but they can lean on corporations to control speech. Happens every day! Unfortunately, that method of control doesn't leave the person once they go home. They take it home with them and it filters into our community. The main prob with DEI is that there are so many Title VII protected classes, that anyone could fit into, at least, one. If that's the case, what authority does a corporation have to determine who is more protected (let's say some with closely held personal beliefs vs. a LGBTQ person disagreeing at work). The answer is the corporation doesn't. So if we're all protected, then no one is protected. "Our side" needs to learn how to stand on our rights better.
So, which protected class are us White men that have been getting our testicles crushed, our Hope-and-Joy murdered, unJustly False-witnessed against without ability to defend as censoring and punishment results, and that genocidal policies directed at for generations? Is it all our Privilege? All our social power we are accused of having as too many of us suffer lifelong in homelessness and hopelessness till death on our feces-covered streets. Such Privileged!
Most excellent article and a big "thank you" to the insider, who nails it with several incredibly well-articulated quotes, that I will be reiterating ad nauseam. I am working in a place mired in this b.s. Although I'm not in the MOST liberal area, it's bad enough (blue city in a red state). I can tell that our leadership gives DEI short shrift and lip service, but it still exists, and the HR people still feel empowered to throw it in everyone's face. I have to say that the funniest part is, even the "BIPOC" don't like it. Our DEI "groups" seem to be full of white, straight people. And the programmers from India as well as the very few black people in the employ of this company are not wasting their times in DEI groups, they have a work ethic which doesn't include wasting work time on joining these groups which essentially do nothing but gradeschool-level "activities" which to me are sort of insulting to the average adult.
Absolutely. I am glad that it's so ineffective for the most part that I can just laugh at it most days. Still, there are some really indoctrinated folks involved in the running of it. I don't know if they like it or if they just know their position depends on supporting it.
I already can correctly guess, but in your HR department are [conservative] white men represented in that department - and management of it - in similar proportions as exist in national population? Not so in the HR Department I had experience with, that 'lost' my job application and would have not known except I was doing that position as work-study and my boss asked me why I did not apply and mentioned the extra paperwork he needed to do to explain why he was hiring a white man for the position he created to keep me.
There are virtually NO men in our HR department. Or if there are, they aren't ones that I interact with. So I can't really say for sure. But the people who run it are women - and they are white. Virtually no "diversity." But I am in a state that is 90% white - so that presents a BIG hurdle to the wokie DEI folks.
In any case, HR departments in general are horrid. They are there to protect the company, not the employees. Most employees understand this. You don't go to HR with problems or issues. They will just mark you as a troublemaker.
Who would ever guess that hiring based on virtue signaling, race, and gender - rather than ability and acumen - would turn out to be a poor business model? Eliminating vast swaths of talented applicants, due to nebulous and artificial standards, can result in nothing other than mediocrity and inefficiency.
And don't forget the normalizing of the ever increasing inJustices and abuses so that all accept it, as we already seem to accept insanities such as Abortion, sexually abusing, mind-raping mutilating sterilizing children, .., open televised Genocide, and so weaken and darken our intellects ever more until Satan walks openly around us and demon-possession and public torture by them is accepted and normal?
Do y'all think more companies will follow Boeing's lead and start abolishing DEI departments?
Jordan Peterson postulates that they're not actually getting rid of the ideology. They're shuttering the department and it's name because it's become so toxic, but they're just moving the DEI workers to other departments and hiding the marxist movement as they continue their work.
Also, Peterson is in Canada - I've NO DOUBT that's what will happen there. They are farther down the commie path than we are in the US, from what I'm seeing.
I find that statement more than a little ironic because DEI is exactly what China and the CCP would NEVER do. For them, hiring, firing, promoting based on say, homosexuality, would seem insane.
Sooner or later someone will have to square that circle and decide which group, the CCP or the SJWs are the Marxists, because it can't be both.
It's how the Communists got to where they are. James Lindsay is my favorite go-to connecting the dots. https://newdiscourses.com/2024/11/communism-2-0-industrial-communism-james-lindsay/
DEI often mirrors communism in:
Group Struggle: Identity defines the conflict.
- Exploitation: Cultural, not just economic.
- Overthrow: Aiming to dismantle oppressive norms.
- Collective vs. Individual: Group rights over personal merit?
- Equity: Redistributing not wealth, but opportunities and power.
Would a communist oppose these aspects if applied to class struggle? Could there be a structural similarity in these revolutions?
And all use demonization of a group / groups to gain & keep power.
Seems they're all on that crazy train.
It's so bad that the MAID* program is going to end up fulfilling Gates' fantasy of population reduction. It seems Depressed or suffering people are offered the chance to be scheduled for MAID by social workers, nurses, nurse practitioners, and lots of apparatnicks in Canada. That's what I'm reading. It's not even safe to be an autistic lonely child.
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*Medical Assistance in Dying
Yes, they are killing off the depressed, old, sick, etc. Isn't euth great? Just like Kurt Vonnegut promised us. I think he called them Suicide "Salons".
Alas, we do not have the Declaration of Independence nor the US Constitution; but we still have hope that things can be turned around!
commie sounds like a negative word here.. is that a retro mccharty type expression that still has relevance in the usa?
It's perfectly appropriate.
https://newdiscourses.com/2024/11/communism-2-0-industrial-communism-james-lindsay/
James Lindsay believes that critical race theory will lead to genocide against white people. He's a nut.
I'd love to see that quote. I've never run across it. So, I'll just call bullshit on your knee-jerk assessment.
He is correct. Any position that argues refusing employment to meritorious White men (or any races men) is genocidal.
commie is perfectly appropriate to describe these actions. why try to change history? Just don't forget it and relive it.
You're kidding, right? You are not defending, in any way, communists, are you?
Yeah, "Mcchartyism," that's it....
I don’t think McCarthyism is linked to the actual evils of communism. He was overzealous and hurt many Americans in his zeal for private beliefs that brought no harm. McCarthy- bad, Communism- bad. Not an oxymoron.
In retrospect, and in light of data from Soviet archives, turns out McCarthy was right.
the word gets used very loosely - like the 'capitalists' word... don't worry - i am not alan lomax, or pete seeger who you probably would have chased out of town if you were around at the time...
Pete Seeger was a fake, virtue-signaling, self-righteous old commie prig. I would have no problem chasing him out of town.
You say McCarthy (sp) as if he was not correct in his assertions of Communists Infiltrations into every powerful Institutions we depend on.
he wasn't correct..he was selling fear.. it seems a lot of folks like being sold on fear... that is what the usa war industry is built on.. the media has pretty good success with it too..
It is a negative word. Communism is a negative ideology. Nothing to see here.
capitalism is a negative word and ideology too... they are about equal..
That's probably what some companies are doing - but I am guessing the corporations who are only giving it lip service at best and have more autonomy might just kick it to the curb.
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So continuing to feed the bugs in the system.
Not good news for astronauts and frequent fliers.
In Canada the Trudeau government often requires DEI if the company wants to get contracts from the government.
I don't know. I think if there is a tipping point - yes. There can also be a pushback - which could make it worse. I am banking on the former! Honestly, why is such a proven disaster still in use??
Being in academia for 30 years, I can tell you they will find a way or make one as Hannibal said.
You poor thing. I was in academia (in administration) for 5 years and that's all I could stand. Esp. when covid hit - yikes.
Yes, the unwritten policies followed, like all the whistleblowers that testify and I experience in mid 1980's of the White male hate and feminist genocidal policy of rejecting employment applications from White men automatically. Now it's excused for DEI, tomorrows we all gone so not need.
Adam Smith wrote: "there's a lot of ruin in a nation" I suspect the same thing applies to large corporations. Will they change? Only if they face an existential crisis, and for a large company, that can take a while.
We see it in defense research and our lack of hypersonic defense or offense, with the failure to hire on merit, so the backbone of excellence - White men - were rejected based on race and those that were hired or already functioning well were surrounded by meritless resent-filled drama & abuse distracting co-workers.
I think that if they lose enough money, they will. It would also help if more people harmed by these policies would come out with their stories, even anonymously. There are also companies who never wanted it to begin with who felt pressured, so they have an out right now if they seize it. Lawsuits for discrimination are important, too. Two things companies don't want to do are lose money and have bad publicity. Unfortunately, many Americans are followers and for those companies, you have to laugh and mock them. It's the only thing that works.
It would be nice to see
It is still terrifying to think that companies we entrust with our lives accept mediocrity and even worse, incompetence, for the sake of nonsensical social goals. So glad this seems to be winding down.
Yes
Not winding down fast enough in education!
easier to root it out in industries with tangible production. Most "education" isn't productive anymore.
Education has been going downhill since before DEI, so it's hard to figure how much of it is the DEI. But DEI is certainly part of the decline of education.
agreed. Removing the Federal government from its management, as well as increasing competition with charter and other private schools, would go a long way towards improving the results of public schools.
Positively! As this article points out--meritocracy is the key to quality and success --and COMPETITION (school choice) will definitely improve education while being fair to all.
Public education started going downhill with the creation of the Department of Education--and I say this as a former school board and State Board of Ed member. President-elect Trump just announced ending the Dept. of Ed and sending education decisions back to the States. Two great results from that: (1) Parents will have a bigger voice in their children's education...quality should improve (2) the teachers Unions will be gone.
Driving out men from the profession and crushing all remaining that do not conform with local Witch's direction in crushing the minds of the students demands Homeschooling and alternatives. Professional teachers are walking Satanic minions and soul-life destroyers.
Education has measurably declined since the Fed. Department created, violating the proper application and show best-policy of Subsidiarity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity_%28Catholicism%29, as Fed.Gov centralizing all power & control in communist fashion.
ESG/CEI scores are what drives this. Example: Southwest Airlines suffered a $2B loss at the end of 2022. Executives still received a $9M in combined bonuses, only fueled by good ESG scores. Despite it being the most profitable year in SWA history prior to the meltdown, employees received peanuts in profit sharing because of the major loss.
As you know better than most, Socratease, what is rewarded is done. The idea that airline companies will be great because of high ESG and DEI scores is thorough nonsense. They could easily have high scores as the planes are crashing all around them. We must ask, How long is stupid behavior going to occur? The Friendly Skies have become much riskier……
Apparently, firing people is being mistaken for revenue generating activity
That has been the norm for a long time!
And who decides these ESG scores?
Absolutely. Mind-blowing, isn't it?
Why were so many people afraid to say: "the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.." for so long? Because the hyped up, screaming, uninformed liberals along with MSM ..and the weaponized government (going after parents at school board meetings) made it too difficult. Great that we can speak the truth now.
Recall those that did in good faith or struggling with inJustice were punished, with enough done so publicly to chill others. The clear viciousness and punishment results for taking employers at their word was incredible. As in the 'Google Memo' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber
I don’t know….many airlines are looking to DEI to produce superior airline companies. No flight experience? No problem: the pilot has her DEI certificate! Thank goodness we can now relax and eat peanuts…..
It’s winding down from one simple fact: TRUTH V FALSEHOODS
It’s little better than a slower suicide, as that is the new “product”.
What "companies" do you entrust your lives to by choice?
Hopefully, None!
Memorize and share this brilliant and remarkably apt quote from the Boeing insider: "DEI is lazy thought leadership best practiced by companies in smooth waters with margins large enough to afford the associated inefficiency."
in other words parasites feed better on healthy hosts.
Or state run departments where profit is not what's needed, only toeing the received wisdom line. Our government departments in the UK are a prime example of this. The more DEI we get the worse the service they deliver gets.
Ha! Just did, without seeing your comment. I also thought it was an excellent summation.
Yes--the last paragraph is a great summation
As a former business executive, this seems so obvious. It’s mind boggling how long this has persisted, pushed by people who think 2+2=5.
It’s insane, but most companies accept DEI, even when they know it undermines the business
Some of those companies know that if they bite the government hand feeding them contracts, they might be tossed off the money train.
Recall that Western society destroying, genocidal White Christians seeking Zionists owned Venture Capital Corp BlackRock that created a corp. 'Credit Score' that gives better scores the fewer White men are employed; low score threatens significant stock value decreases. We are all Palestinians now (and have always been.)
“… people do not want to be beneficiaries of bias any more than they want to be victims of it.” Except for the likes of Claudine Gay!
and Obama
There’s actually quite a lot of people who do!
That is such an obvious downside of this policy. No one wants to be considered an “Identity Hire.” Especially when they have been hired on merits. I think it should be abolished for that reason alone.
I hope to hear the Trump administration announce that it is abolishing equity as an all of government policy, and returning to our Constitutional rights of equality under the law.
Exactly right. Under DEI, one can only assume that any minority is a diversity hire—it must be so. It pretty much says so in its own doctrine.
There’s a new-ish drama series about Julia Child. Her producer at PBS is a young black woman. In Boston. In like 1963. Let’s pretend the Civil Rights movement never happened; it was totally unnecessary!
... who are legion.
The ridiculous implementation of DEI is ruining the brands of corporations. I suspect the C suites have known this for a long time and are letting out a sigh of relief that it is becoming socially acceptable to admit it. It has created a monster where management became paralyzed from conducting efficient and profitable business.
I don't know if the stories about Boeing's planes failing or falling apart were ever definitively linked to DEI, but it's sure a bad look to pour money into diversity while you can't keep aircraft in the sky.
How can it not be if all other variables are steady? Remember the whistleblowers, one shot in his car.
Look to what is missing since Western Wide since Affirmative-Action implementation forced-injected below standard women and minority employees (due to so few to draw from) into white man virtue standard well-ordered productive workplaces when many women were Sick with 3rd wave feminism, destroying good order and productivity and unJustly denying qualified men those positions. Societal destruction.
gay, race communism never was going to be good for business long term
Retired Boeing engineer here: I am a white female who was a successful software Engineer for 31 years, the last 21 at Boeing - achieving the rank of associate Technical Fellow in the late 20-teens. I “retired” at 57 in 2016 after many years as a pariah for being too outspoken about mismanagement such as daring to suggest so-called “diversity” groups (racially segregated) were the opposite of diversity. This discrimination against white people and rejection of merit started at Boeing around 2010 long before George Floyd. Incidentally I was also required to sign a paper saying I would not sue Boeing for age discrimination as a criteria to receive severance pay. No shock years later when planes were dropping out of the sky (I knew immediately it was a software bug) and we now have astronauts marooned on the International Space Station - I also worked on that project as a software lead but was let go after a successful CDR (actually notified during the CDR while on travel) because my salary was deemed “too high” (project was heavily staffed with contractors making 1/4 my pay with no benefits). Boeing has a long road back to being the company they were.
Sandy, you sound like the kind of qualified woman engineer that followed the established productive system that existed when you entered employment there when the corp. was less self-destructive. I have worked with only one Professional woman [engineer] that was as focused on getting work done well and efficiently as the men co-workers, The rest created a Toxic, often confusing, and abusive work-place. Is that anything you experienced? I have talked to women that want to work only with men for same.
Interesting comment Steven. I do prefer working with men because they tend to be more logical…like me. I’ve often thought I “think like a man.” Personality tests I took at work confirmed I am unusual, Myers’s Brigs INTJ. I thank God I wasn’t a teen in this toxic era because I would have undoubtedly been pressured by the alphabet people to “transition” despite the fact that I love being a woman. In any case, yes, I did experience a few toxic women (always in management) but also some other dedicated hardworking female engineers. Funny story, I once led a review team for a software upgrade of the B1 bomber. There were supposed to be 6 Technical Fellows on the team but only 3 of us showed up - all women. So us ladies just carried on and did the review. It was a blast. We never even talked about shoes if you can’t believe it ;-)
WOW ---thank you for the inside story
Thank you. So perfectly written and presented. Personally, I am encouraged. The majority are seeing it. I believe the Left will slowly and eventually eat their own if we just keep them away from our vital processes and pay them no attention. They're like mosquitoes. Somehow a part of nature. But irritating nonetheless. Keep the screens on your windows and the Deet handy.
Thank you! Your support means we can keep exposing this DEI nonsense.
Because DEI killed Boeing
Totally spot on. And yes, DEI will eventually die because it’s totally dumb and value destroying and insulting to both its beneficiaries and its victims.
And thankfully it looks like companies are starting to realize that--or at least now they feel like they can get rid of it.
They'll get rid of it - quietly.
This: "There is no way to keep production in focus while also allowing an externally focused bureaucracy with weak ideas to drive culture." I know Robby Starbuck has been instrumental in bringing down DEI in companies like John Deere. Did he have any impact on Boeing?
Corporations across the board can save millions by cutting the H/R depts. that have expanded into DEI workshops. Stop the required self flagellation of employees that only builds resentment towards the C suite for making them do so. Nobody wants to sit in a class and listen to how bad their ancestors were or be graded on their Privieledge.
And, have they even bothered to measure the number of really great employees they are NOT attracting by having this absolute nonsense front-and-center? I am a stellar employee with a lot of talent, and I was very close to not taking my current position (which I excel at) because of this crap. An more principled person may not have.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Anyone remember the 2017 'Google Memo' debacle and unJust firing, white man Engineer went to one of those 'Wack your white penis' DEI workshops - but Diversity they called it then - and they wanted feedback, so he did some good research about the subject, and the Truth and compliance to request got him fired.
Information here;
'Google's Ideological Echo Chamber',
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_Ideological_Echo_Chamber
The research was good and the arguments solid.
God Bless., Steve
All corporations are about profitability and pleasing the stockholders. From a corporate perspective DEI seemed to make sense to 1. Reduce risk (discrimination lawsuits) and 2. Improve marketing efforts (virtue signaling to consumers). I doubt most corporate executives really cared about the claimed social values of DEI. After implementing DEI and after a few years, corporations are beginning to recognize that 1. the marketing aspect of DEI is, at best, a double-edged sword, 2. There are unproductive expenses associated with DEI, 3. DEI is divisive and not going to help a corporate culture and 4. in some cases DEI hires will not be qualified to produce quality work.
Until we address where the monetary incentives are coming from, and put an end to it, I truly don't see DEI going away. Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street are major stock holders in all of these companies. Having the fiscal power larger than most countries, it will be difficult to break up these monopolies because they also have control over governments that are helping to push this crap.
they don't "hold" the shares, as much as they vote the shares of actual investors holding their index funds and etfs. We need to change the laws so that only direct shareholders can vote their shares.
...and while we're at it, we should ban lobbying so that the average citizen has more of a voice with their elected officials. Grassroots can rarely, if ever, beat a lobby group. COVID Vax mandates were a great example of that.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
The 'money is speech' and personhood rights to corporations turn them into Super-people, and immunity to owners and they are corporate-Dragons that owners can direct to destroy, poison, kill, .., for the owners. Satanic tool.
Yes, corp. law needs to change. 'money is Speech' has to be struck, external directors of our gov has to change.
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Positions of power over others - the holders should display virtue first, before allowed.
I would change that and many systems to require 4 years of local, national, international Service work to testify to Virtue, before allowed to have political power; voting, work for gov., run for office, and perhaps allowed to manage, and such power over others.
There is a fuller version of this idea, school ends at age 15, all required 2 2-year posting of choice, local or national, Service, if local then somewhere away from mother (parents, if Father not disposed of yet) where they away from our mostly sick Western mothers, aunts, .., and living in sex-separate dorms and food and a little spending money, and after those 4-years, as many 2-year terms of service of choice, including international, and after 2 extra years more than those first 4 earns you full citizen's rights. Training, education, and on-job experience optional.
With removal of money, set media hours, debates, and other changes,
.. do you think allow only those that care about others and community to vote result in better elected to office?
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God Bless., Steve
But why, if the DEI nonsense does not make the company more profitable? Surely the bottom line is what's important to an investor?
Is the cozy corporate fascist state we live in. Govt can't control speech (in theory) but they can lean on corporations to control speech. Happens every day! Unfortunately, that method of control doesn't leave the person once they go home. They take it home with them and it filters into our community. The main prob with DEI is that there are so many Title VII protected classes, that anyone could fit into, at least, one. If that's the case, what authority does a corporation have to determine who is more protected (let's say some with closely held personal beliefs vs. a LGBTQ person disagreeing at work). The answer is the corporation doesn't. So if we're all protected, then no one is protected. "Our side" needs to learn how to stand on our rights better.
So, which protected class are us White men that have been getting our testicles crushed, our Hope-and-Joy murdered, unJustly False-witnessed against without ability to defend as censoring and punishment results, and that genocidal policies directed at for generations? Is it all our Privilege? All our social power we are accused of having as too many of us suffer lifelong in homelessness and hopelessness till death on our feces-covered streets. Such Privileged!
Most excellent article and a big "thank you" to the insider, who nails it with several incredibly well-articulated quotes, that I will be reiterating ad nauseam. I am working in a place mired in this b.s. Although I'm not in the MOST liberal area, it's bad enough (blue city in a red state). I can tell that our leadership gives DEI short shrift and lip service, but it still exists, and the HR people still feel empowered to throw it in everyone's face. I have to say that the funniest part is, even the "BIPOC" don't like it. Our DEI "groups" seem to be full of white, straight people. And the programmers from India as well as the very few black people in the employ of this company are not wasting their times in DEI groups, they have a work ethic which doesn't include wasting work time on joining these groups which essentially do nothing but gradeschool-level "activities" which to me are sort of insulting to the average adult.
Thank you for your support! Hopefully the DEI-abolishing comes to your workplace--it can only be an improvement for everyone.
Absolutely. I am glad that it's so ineffective for the most part that I can just laugh at it most days. Still, there are some really indoctrinated folks involved in the running of it. I don't know if they like it or if they just know their position depends on supporting it.
I already can correctly guess, but in your HR department are [conservative] white men represented in that department - and management of it - in similar proportions as exist in national population? Not so in the HR Department I had experience with, that 'lost' my job application and would have not known except I was doing that position as work-study and my boss asked me why I did not apply and mentioned the extra paperwork he needed to do to explain why he was hiring a white man for the position he created to keep me.
There are virtually NO men in our HR department. Or if there are, they aren't ones that I interact with. So I can't really say for sure. But the people who run it are women - and they are white. Virtually no "diversity." But I am in a state that is 90% white - so that presents a BIG hurdle to the wokie DEI folks.
In any case, HR departments in general are horrid. They are there to protect the company, not the employees. Most employees understand this. You don't go to HR with problems or issues. They will just mark you as a troublemaker.
Who would ever guess that hiring based on virtue signaling, race, and gender - rather than ability and acumen - would turn out to be a poor business model? Eliminating vast swaths of talented applicants, due to nebulous and artificial standards, can result in nothing other than mediocrity and inefficiency.
And don't forget the normalizing of the ever increasing inJustices and abuses so that all accept it, as we already seem to accept insanities such as Abortion, sexually abusing, mind-raping mutilating sterilizing children, .., open televised Genocide, and so weaken and darken our intellects ever more until Satan walks openly around us and demon-possession and public torture by them is accepted and normal?