Please God may Tulsi go in and fire every one of these sick MF’s. We need to flush the shit out of government now. Please be ruthless and send them all to unemployment ASAP. Reveal their identities so no one will ever hire them again.
Godspeed to Chris, Tulsi, and DOGE. Four years may not be enough time to uncover and discharge the rot from the swamp. The GAE (Globohomo American Empire) is a danger to our country and the world.
Yes; these "agents" have been working tirelessly chatting on important matters of mutual concern. I feel so safe knowing they have the backs of the American people.
Sounds like locker room talk to me. Do you only approve of men like Trump and Hegseth discussing pussy grabbing and fucking other men’s wives in locker rooms??
You are free to speculate and be totally wrong. The Puzzle Palace civilians far out number the military and are more permanently entrenced as military rotate out.
People are commenting about mass firings as a result of this. My point is that I believe most of those personnel in the chat were likely military members and are already being processed out anyway due to the transgender in the military executive order. That’s my point. So … you know… probably not “mass firings” maybe some non-judicial punishment for them on the way out the door. I doubt any of them would get a dishonorable discharge though. OTH or big chicken dinner (bad conduct discharge)
Ok I get it now. If your assumption is that many of these people are military, then I agree. I am surprised that this may be the case. I thought most NSA agents are civilians, or retired military. But I know active duty military are assigned to any of the 18 agencies...So basically your comment makes sense to me now. Also, I too hope there is not a lot of NSA personnel, just few, but even a few is unacceptable. Thanks for breaking it down.
No worries! And maybe I am wrong, just speculation on my part due to some research I did about transgender military members, along with some anecdotal information and info that has been shared with me from folks who work in this industry and whatnot! I am not afraid to be wrong, though.
Look at the chats. The correspondents are DIA and NSA. Most of the “employees” at those agencies are military members. Also, many trans folks joined the military specifically to get the surgery and drugs for free.
You may want to do some research, the mix is 60% civilian to 40% military at the NSA. The mix is a bit more even at DIA facilities within DC but most military associated with DIA are spread out around the nation and overseas at military installations.
My speculation is about the percentage of transgender employees there. My research leads me to believe most of the employees at any DOD outfit who are transgender tend to overwhelmingly be military and not civilian employees.
Also - regarding your comment “most military associated with DIA are spread out around the nation and overseas at military installations.” - - does that imply that Intelink is only available to personnel in the beltway?
I think I’ll wait til people are relieved/fired before I buy that. I saw plenty of civilians walking around when I spent time at DIA doing war games and toured NSA. Remember the saying about “assume”?
OK, but her point is that there are probably more military transgender people than civilian, which I agree is counter intuitive. But then FPF also makes the point that these trans people JOIN the military to HAVE surgery. All if this is way outside of my experience, it is weird, quite frankly, must never be normalized let alone tolerate, and it is the worst scandal I can think of. It all started around 2008, but just got exponentially more insane under Biden, the worst president in US history.
I retired in June 2020. Never saw a single transgender military person. There are some that get a lot of visibility (Space Force Officer) but none of my mentees still in the Service mention transgender troops. Not saying there aren’t some sprinkled in…but not ready to buy it’s widespread.
What started out as "tolerance" quickly became "acceptance" and now is "celebration". There is a reason we used to think of this stuff as perversion. It is high time we started to do so again.
Every government employee who has a salary of around $140,000 and has been working at home because of covid and refuses to answer a question. Name five things you did at work or get fired
Well, there is that, of course, but, also, why is the intelligence community employing people suffering from a psychological delusion (i.e., that they were born in the "wrong" body) and acting on the basis of that delusion. Surely, having such a psychological condition must affect their ability to perform their duties.
Maybe, but how would the hiring official know of their dysphoria? It is hard for me to imagine that during the job interview they would said, "Oh, and by the way, I was born in the wrong body" any more than they would say, "Oh, and I have Body Identity Integrity Disorder and want to have a healthy limb severed or my spinal cord cut.". Not exactly a selling point. Although so much of the current scene is beyond my belief, who knows?
The true practitioners of DEI will actually promote and advertise for such candidates and others who are anything other than white cis males. Even more so if they are politically aligned with the DEI agenda and not white supremacy/normativity.
You'd be amazed at what ERGs (Employe Resource Groups) get to do on company time, even in the private sector (such as in the company I just quit from).
Agreed. They need to stick to this point. Company intimate relationships are a big no no for obvious reasons. Why wouldn’t basic social etiquette for most every company apply here as well? This is just beyond disturbing.
If they were explicitly, or even implicitly (tacitly) allowed (or even encouraged) to have these discussions on this system and on taxpayer time, that might be insufficient justification for firing.
That seems like sufficient justification for firing management as well.
I'd like to hear the "teach men not to rape" crowd on the left to explain to me why that's necessary given the fact that few men commit rape, yet it has to be clearly articulated why discussing this weekend's gangbang is off limits as a water cooler conversation before canning someone... Especially someone who has carte blanche access to someone else's (exes, etc) private info and presumably private photos as well.
If they are going to keep sawing off the tree limbs they sit on, we should just let them fall. The fact they seem unaware of professional conduct or the mores of normal people doesn't exempt them from the consequences of being openly degenerate.
Yes, I agree it might be justification for firing management, unless, say, the order can from the very top, and those people (that person?)can't from the very top.
I'd imagine there are cases in which even what was tacitly permitted was violated, so there's that as an option.
Anything from the top that OKs this has probably already gone through the paper shredder or degaussing device, so if firing these degenerates results in turning state's evidence against the former white house, even better.
Any spook that doesn't keep a record of legitimation isn't much of a spook and should probably be canned on that basis alone.
Find them. Fire them. Salt the earth. This is a disgusting and dangerous use of our taxpayer money. What professional manager in any business setting would allow this and think it’s good for the company’s shareholders or bottom line. Why would this be considered “mission critical “ in our government? What mission? Only if your mission is to chat people up for sex parties on company premises or company time. Horrible. Salt the earth.
Over 20 years ago, a friend got turned down for an NSA position because he admitted to hiring a hooker on a trip to Olangapo. He found out when he used the FOIA to review his application
My father, a career army intelligence officer is officially spinning in his grave. I remember how horrified he was by the sexualized torture at GITMO. This would have enraged him. Apart from the utter depravity of it, it’s such a slap on the face of the American people.
a) you need more than one anonymous source to verify this, so it isn't--or doesn't seem to be--just one disgruntled employee.
b) transcripts need to be published somehow so the public can see just how widespread it is--was it just a few people or was this the culture and widespread? this info appearing in something like the Free Press would go a long way to validating it not just as a right-wing talking point (not saying it is but it could appear that way to a lot of people).
c) that kind of work culture is incredibly unprofessional but, with national security, it opens up these people to blackmail or manipulation, which is a big security risk.
d) I would try to emphasize that the behavior is reprehensible and not the person. everyone has issues they need to work out (some more than others...), and they shouldn't be hated for that. but if they're pushing harmful norms and rules into workplaces and society, that behavior should, yes, be vilified. it's a fine line to keep, but an important one imho.
e) related to the last point, anyone who is living this lifestyle and talking about it at work should be fired, post haste, for a lot of reasons.
A story like this, if it's really a widespread practice, needs a bigger story written. Otherwise, it'll seem like axe-to-grind anti-wokism (not that it doesn't deserve that).
The left uses language as a weapon. Their weaponization of biology is of a similar type. Until we can eradicate their perversion of language, this insanity will continue. The first step is to delegitimize the word "transgender". There is no such thing, never has been, never will be. There is male, there is female. The rest are physical and mental illnesses, period.
As to the house cleaning needed in DC and many States, the phrase "You're Fired", should echo off cubicle hives and marble walls like thunder during monsoon season.
Please God may Tulsi go in and fire every one of these sick MF’s. We need to flush the shit out of government now. Please be ruthless and send them all to unemployment ASAP. Reveal their identities so no one will ever hire them again.
Godspeed to Chris, Tulsi, and DOGE. Four years may not be enough time to uncover and discharge the rot from the swamp. The GAE (Globohomo American Empire) is a danger to our country and the world.
You deserve a Pulitzer, but the Pulitzer committee is full of leftist commissars who would defend these oppressed stunning and brave LGBTQ intelligence officials: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/pulitzer-prize-committee-propaganda-commissars
Yes; these "agents" have been working tirelessly chatting on important matters of mutual concern. I feel so safe knowing they have the backs of the American people.
Imagine what they say when they aren't at work!!!
Sounds like locker room talk to me. Do you only approve of men like Trump and Hegseth discussing pussy grabbing and fucking other men’s wives in locker rooms??
Neither of those were while on the US Government payroll, so yeah, there is a difference.
Your as sick as they are then.
And Hegseth’s sexual orientation is “likes fucking other men’s wives”!!! 😝
Probably military members posting this stuff and not civilians.
Do not care if they are military or Civilians, Fire every one or discharge them dishonorably if military
My point is that the transgender military are already being discharged.
There are many civilians working at all three agencies as well as contractors so we should wait for the facts to fall out before making assumptions.
Got it. No speculation allowed here.
You are free to speculate and be totally wrong. The Puzzle Palace civilians far out number the military and are more permanently entrenced as military rotate out.
But perhaps most of the transgender personnel there are/were military?
What is the evidence for this statement? I am curious about your information. Thanks.
Oh it’s all just anecdotal. Don’t take it too seriously
"Oh it’s all just anecdotal. Don’t take it too seriously."
This is how Fake News gets started!
Dear Conservatives: Let's not be so open minded that we check our brains at the door whenever we any "report" of woke weirdness.
We Must Keep It Real by having multiple, trustworthy sources and not fall victim wild reports or to innuendo.
What is your point? It's unclear what you are getting at...
People are commenting about mass firings as a result of this. My point is that I believe most of those personnel in the chat were likely military members and are already being processed out anyway due to the transgender in the military executive order. That’s my point. So … you know… probably not “mass firings” maybe some non-judicial punishment for them on the way out the door. I doubt any of them would get a dishonorable discharge though. OTH or big chicken dinner (bad conduct discharge)
Ok I get it now. If your assumption is that many of these people are military, then I agree. I am surprised that this may be the case. I thought most NSA agents are civilians, or retired military. But I know active duty military are assigned to any of the 18 agencies...So basically your comment makes sense to me now. Also, I too hope there is not a lot of NSA personnel, just few, but even a few is unacceptable. Thanks for breaking it down.
No worries! And maybe I am wrong, just speculation on my part due to some research I did about transgender military members, along with some anecdotal information and info that has been shared with me from folks who work in this industry and whatnot! I am not afraid to be wrong, though.
Why do you believe that?
Look at the chats. The correspondents are DIA and NSA. Most of the “employees” at those agencies are military members. Also, many trans folks joined the military specifically to get the surgery and drugs for free.
You may want to do some research, the mix is 60% civilian to 40% military at the NSA. The mix is a bit more even at DIA facilities within DC but most military associated with DIA are spread out around the nation and overseas at military installations.
My speculation is about the percentage of transgender employees there. My research leads me to believe most of the employees at any DOD outfit who are transgender tend to overwhelmingly be military and not civilian employees.
Also - regarding your comment “most military associated with DIA are spread out around the nation and overseas at military installations.” - - does that imply that Intelink is only available to personnel in the beltway?
@ FPF: That's a powerful, damning statement. Where is your evidence?
I think I’ll wait til people are relieved/fired before I buy that. I saw plenty of civilians walking around when I spent time at DIA doing war games and toured NSA. Remember the saying about “assume”?
OK, but her point is that there are probably more military transgender people than civilian, which I agree is counter intuitive. But then FPF also makes the point that these trans people JOIN the military to HAVE surgery. All if this is way outside of my experience, it is weird, quite frankly, must never be normalized let alone tolerate, and it is the worst scandal I can think of. It all started around 2008, but just got exponentially more insane under Biden, the worst president in US history.
I retired in June 2020. Never saw a single transgender military person. There are some that get a lot of visibility (Space Force Officer) but none of my mentees still in the Service mention transgender troops. Not saying there aren’t some sprinkled in…but not ready to buy it’s widespread.
Okay.
What started out as "tolerance" quickly became "acceptance" and now is "celebration". There is a reason we used to think of this stuff as perversion. It is high time we started to do so again.
They chose PRIDE, one of the 7 deadlies, to name their (now) month of celebration to boot. No accident, there.
Who remembers the gay sex on the senate floor tape? It wasnt that long ago...What department did those freaks work for and are they still employed?
Those were congressional staffers - legislative branch not executive branch.
Every government employee who has a salary of around $140,000 and has been working at home because of covid and refuses to answer a question. Name five things you did at work or get fired
What the hell? This is “work”? At taxpayer expense? Make the people known and fire them all.
Well, there is that, of course, but, also, why is the intelligence community employing people suffering from a psychological delusion (i.e., that they were born in the "wrong" body) and acting on the basis of that delusion. Surely, having such a psychological condition must affect their ability to perform their duties.
Xactly, I would love to see what the job description is.
Most of those posting were likely military members, in my opinion.
They spend all their time looking for things that can possibly offend them so they can sue and live off that.
As if the willingness to castrate yourself at a young age wasn't cause enough for psychiatric evaluation. . . . .
DEI
Maybe, but how would the hiring official know of their dysphoria? It is hard for me to imagine that during the job interview they would said, "Oh, and by the way, I was born in the wrong body" any more than they would say, "Oh, and I have Body Identity Integrity Disorder and want to have a healthy limb severed or my spinal cord cut.". Not exactly a selling point. Although so much of the current scene is beyond my belief, who knows?
The true practitioners of DEI will actually promote and advertise for such candidates and others who are anything other than white cis males. Even more so if they are politically aligned with the DEI agenda and not white supremacy/normativity.
Hey, why not the best? It's just our national security at stake.
You'd be amazed at what ERGs (Employe Resource Groups) get to do on company time, even in the private sector (such as in the company I just quit from).
If history holds, and Trump goes the public with the allegations, the left will reflexively fight him.
Now that the facts are know, its only a matter of time before the MEDIA decontructs the narrative
to read: Poor CIA/NSA officials harassed by Trump bullies.
Either way there is NO PERVERT OR DEGENERATE they won't defend. Just watch.
Its only a matter of time.
Stay tuned
I would be fired for discussing any of this in my company's Slack channel.
The same rule must apply here, but arguably with much greater force considering the power and lack of oversight the intel agencies have.
Agreed. They need to stick to this point. Company intimate relationships are a big no no for obvious reasons. Why wouldn’t basic social etiquette for most every company apply here as well? This is just beyond disturbing.
Because since 2017, trans have special rights that the rest of us don't enjoy.
If they were explicitly, or even implicitly (tacitly) allowed (or even encouraged) to have these discussions on this system and on taxpayer time, that might be insufficient justification for firing.
That seems like sufficient justification for firing management as well.
I'd like to hear the "teach men not to rape" crowd on the left to explain to me why that's necessary given the fact that few men commit rape, yet it has to be clearly articulated why discussing this weekend's gangbang is off limits as a water cooler conversation before canning someone... Especially someone who has carte blanche access to someone else's (exes, etc) private info and presumably private photos as well.
If they are going to keep sawing off the tree limbs they sit on, we should just let them fall. The fact they seem unaware of professional conduct or the mores of normal people doesn't exempt them from the consequences of being openly degenerate.
Yes, I agree it might be justification for firing management, unless, say, the order can from the very top, and those people (that person?)can't from the very top.
I'd imagine there are cases in which even what was tacitly permitted was violated, so there's that as an option.
Anything from the top that OKs this has probably already gone through the paper shredder or degaussing device, so if firing these degenerates results in turning state's evidence against the former white house, even better.
Any spook that doesn't keep a record of legitimation isn't much of a spook and should probably be canned on that basis alone.
Find them. Fire them. Salt the earth. This is a disgusting and dangerous use of our taxpayer money. What professional manager in any business setting would allow this and think it’s good for the company’s shareholders or bottom line. Why would this be considered “mission critical “ in our government? What mission? Only if your mission is to chat people up for sex parties on company premises or company time. Horrible. Salt the earth.
Over 20 years ago, a friend got turned down for an NSA position because he admitted to hiring a hooker on a trip to Olangapo. He found out when he used the FOIA to review his application
Flush the toilet.
My father, a career army intelligence officer is officially spinning in his grave. I remember how horrified he was by the sexualized torture at GITMO. This would have enraged him. Apart from the utter depravity of it, it’s such a slap on the face of the American people.
A few points:
a) you need more than one anonymous source to verify this, so it isn't--or doesn't seem to be--just one disgruntled employee.
b) transcripts need to be published somehow so the public can see just how widespread it is--was it just a few people or was this the culture and widespread? this info appearing in something like the Free Press would go a long way to validating it not just as a right-wing talking point (not saying it is but it could appear that way to a lot of people).
c) that kind of work culture is incredibly unprofessional but, with national security, it opens up these people to blackmail or manipulation, which is a big security risk.
d) I would try to emphasize that the behavior is reprehensible and not the person. everyone has issues they need to work out (some more than others...), and they shouldn't be hated for that. but if they're pushing harmful norms and rules into workplaces and society, that behavior should, yes, be vilified. it's a fine line to keep, but an important one imho.
e) related to the last point, anyone who is living this lifestyle and talking about it at work should be fired, post haste, for a lot of reasons.
A story like this, if it's really a widespread practice, needs a bigger story written. Otherwise, it'll seem like axe-to-grind anti-wokism (not that it doesn't deserve that).
We definitely need the transcripts.
The left uses language as a weapon. Their weaponization of biology is of a similar type. Until we can eradicate their perversion of language, this insanity will continue. The first step is to delegitimize the word "transgender". There is no such thing, never has been, never will be. There is male, there is female. The rest are physical and mental illnesses, period.
As to the house cleaning needed in DC and many States, the phrase "You're Fired", should echo off cubicle hives and marble walls like thunder during monsoon season.
CLEAN HOUSE - these perverts need to go
This is what happens when you make insanity “mission critical.”
No wonder our intelligence services miss things. Like 9/11. They are too busy jerking off in their chat rooms. Jeffery Toobin would be proud.
How in the world do these people have a security clearance? Track them down, revoke their clearances.
Track them down and extort them for $$ to not tell their friends and family