There is nothing antisemitic about the Haaretz article. This is an Israeli newspaper publishing interviews with soldiers. Israel is an open society with a vibrant free press and newspapers like Haaretz. No one is claiming that this Haaretz article is antisemitic, come on.
Look Israel commits war crimes in Gaza, sure. Some actors within the IDF are terrible. Of course, 10% of Israelis are Smotrich / Ben-Gvir types. And maybe 80% of Palestinians are.
The US also committed war crimes in its war against ISIS and its war against Germany and Japan, killed a lot of innocent civilians, killed a lot of children etc. That doesn't mean it's not a just war. Hamas is an ISIS-style organization, and the war against Hamas is no less just than the war against ISIS. The US does plenty of its own war crimes and killing children and other civilians. That doesn't mean the wars are not just. Of course the US should sell weapons to Isreal and not just give them away for free.
Do you think the Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip was a mistake, in light of what’s happened in Gaza since then? Do you think Israel should stay in the West Bank so that it does not become another Gaza?
Do you think Israel should secretly fund the Palestinian Authority so it becomes very powerful? (Like it did with Hamas so it would have a reason not to negotiate a 2 state solution).
Israel has never wanted a 2 state solution and for the past 30+ years has sabotaged every such effort. They have the own version of from the river to the sea and the process is in full swing. 750k "settlers" in the West Bank. It's far more that 10% of the "far right" who Bibi has to appease. The following in quotes is from The Nation magazine in 2023.
Anyone can see what is enshrined in Israeli law. Israel is and has been an apartheid state based on ethnicity and/or religion.
"The drive to establish the “Greater Land of Israel” is the central ideological goal of the Likud Party, which has dominated Israeli politics since 1977. The commitment to Greater Israel was enshrined in the “Basic Laws” of the Israeli state in 2018 when the Knesset passed the “Nation State of the Jewish People” law. This law states that the right to national self-determination in Palestine “is unique to the Jewish People” and that “the State views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value, and shall act to encourage and promote its establishment and strengthening.” This commitment is one of the “guiding principles” of the current Israeli government, which stated that “the Jewish people have an exclusive and inalienable right to all parts of the Land of Israel,” including “Judea and Samaria.” And frankly I didn't really care about all that until I saw (on X) just how much devastation and outright murder was being committed by Israel with our weapons. Your point about war crimes having been committed by Americans is accurate. However they weren't (post Vietnam) inflicted in such huge numbers and in plain view of cameras and reporters. Also the US has a judicial framework in place for military members accused of war crimes. Israelis can bomb and deliberately shoot civilians and small children without consequence.
I mean, Israel (under non Likud governments) offered two-state solutions in 2000 and 2008 and even Netanyahu (from Likud) negotiated for one in 2014. Many polls showed Israelis with majority support for the two state solution. The Palestinians said no, and focused on the "right of return".
Israel also has a framework for charging war criminals, look up Elor Azaria. As with America they are not always caught. Sure America is generally better about it than Israel. Yes, there weren't tons of cameras in Mosul during the ISIS war the way there are tons of cameras in Gaza. But it's quite similar. Many civilian deaths. The vast majority of Israeli soldiers don't shoot civilians and small children deliberately and are focused on terrorists. But there are some bad soldiers. There are some in the US army too though probably a bit less. Sure, I don't think that changes that overall it's a just war against an ISIS-like terrorist organization. If you want to talk about targeting civilians, Hamas does that as a matter of policy. Not just a few bad actors in Hamas, as with Israel and the US, but that's actually what Hamas is about. Hamas is evil and must be destroyed.
I don't think the Likud has any ideological goals at this point other than to keep Netanyahu in power. It is a populist party around one personality.
Gee, we only have to wait 22 more years to quit funding Israel killing Palestinian children and other civilians? Tomorrow isn't too soon..
By killing children you mean war but ok
THIS IS BLATANT ANTISEMITISM. IT'S GOT TO STOP!!! https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-18/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-expose-arbitrary-killings-and-rampant-lawlessness-in-gazas-netzarim-corridor/00000193-da7f-de86-a9f3-fefff2e50000
There is nothing antisemitic about the Haaretz article. This is an Israeli newspaper publishing interviews with soldiers. Israel is an open society with a vibrant free press and newspapers like Haaretz. No one is claiming that this Haaretz article is antisemitic, come on.
Look Israel commits war crimes in Gaza, sure. Some actors within the IDF are terrible. Of course, 10% of Israelis are Smotrich / Ben-Gvir types. And maybe 80% of Palestinians are.
The US also committed war crimes in its war against ISIS and its war against Germany and Japan, killed a lot of innocent civilians, killed a lot of children etc. That doesn't mean it's not a just war. Hamas is an ISIS-style organization, and the war against Hamas is no less just than the war against ISIS. The US does plenty of its own war crimes and killing children and other civilians. That doesn't mean the wars are not just. Of course the US should sell weapons to Isreal and not just give them away for free.
Do you think the Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip was a mistake, in light of what’s happened in Gaza since then? Do you think Israel should stay in the West Bank so that it does not become another Gaza?
Yes and no.
Do you think Israel should secretly fund the Palestinian Authority so it becomes very powerful? (Like it did with Hamas so it would have a reason not to negotiate a 2 state solution).
No it shouldn’t.
Israel let Qatar fund Hamas. Netanyahu wanted to buy peace and quiet and justified this to the far right with this talking point.
The Palestinians are not interested in a two state solution. They want it all from the river to the sea. They won’t agree to two states.
Israel has never wanted a 2 state solution and for the past 30+ years has sabotaged every such effort. They have the own version of from the river to the sea and the process is in full swing. 750k "settlers" in the West Bank. It's far more that 10% of the "far right" who Bibi has to appease. The following in quotes is from The Nation magazine in 2023.
Anyone can see what is enshrined in Israeli law. Israel is and has been an apartheid state based on ethnicity and/or religion.
"The drive to establish the “Greater Land of Israel” is the central ideological goal of the Likud Party, which has dominated Israeli politics since 1977. The commitment to Greater Israel was enshrined in the “Basic Laws” of the Israeli state in 2018 when the Knesset passed the “Nation State of the Jewish People” law. This law states that the right to national self-determination in Palestine “is unique to the Jewish People” and that “the State views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value, and shall act to encourage and promote its establishment and strengthening.” This commitment is one of the “guiding principles” of the current Israeli government, which stated that “the Jewish people have an exclusive and inalienable right to all parts of the Land of Israel,” including “Judea and Samaria.” And frankly I didn't really care about all that until I saw (on X) just how much devastation and outright murder was being committed by Israel with our weapons. Your point about war crimes having been committed by Americans is accurate. However they weren't (post Vietnam) inflicted in such huge numbers and in plain view of cameras and reporters. Also the US has a judicial framework in place for military members accused of war crimes. Israelis can bomb and deliberately shoot civilians and small children without consequence.
I mean, Israel (under non Likud governments) offered two-state solutions in 2000 and 2008 and even Netanyahu (from Likud) negotiated for one in 2014. Many polls showed Israelis with majority support for the two state solution. The Palestinians said no, and focused on the "right of return".
https://thirdnarrative.org/palestinians-still-reject-clinton-parameters/
Israel also has a framework for charging war criminals, look up Elor Azaria. As with America they are not always caught. Sure America is generally better about it than Israel. Yes, there weren't tons of cameras in Mosul during the ISIS war the way there are tons of cameras in Gaza. But it's quite similar. Many civilian deaths. The vast majority of Israeli soldiers don't shoot civilians and small children deliberately and are focused on terrorists. But there are some bad soldiers. There are some in the US army too though probably a bit less. Sure, I don't think that changes that overall it's a just war against an ISIS-like terrorist organization. If you want to talk about targeting civilians, Hamas does that as a matter of policy. Not just a few bad actors in Hamas, as with Israel and the US, but that's actually what Hamas is about. Hamas is evil and must be destroyed.
I don't think the Likud has any ideological goals at this point other than to keep Netanyahu in power. It is a populist party around one personality.