Of course criticism of Israel is not necessarily antisemitic. Is Chris Rufo saying that criticism of Israel is necessarily antisemitic? Of course not. Candace Owens and Kanye West are not mere "critics of Israel". Candace Owens stopped listening to Trump's inauguration speech when a rabbi began speaking, said that Stalin was Jewish, said…
Of course criticism of Israel is not necessarily antisemitic. Is Chris Rufo saying that criticism of Israel is necessarily antisemitic? Of course not. Candace Owens and Kanye West are not mere "critics of Israel". Candace Owens stopped listening to Trump's inauguration speech when a rabbi began speaking, said that Stalin was Jewish, said that LBJ was Jewish, and so on. Kanye West constantly tweets about how Jews are bad.
I don’t think the word “Israel” was in the piece. I just re-skimmed it. Kanye West is known for saying antisemitic things that have nothing to do with Israel. A swastika is a Nazi symbol from before there was a state.
That comment is parody-level absurdity.
Al Sharpton wasn’t talking about Israel.
The antisemitism I have heard from Candace Owens has been about American Jews, not Israel. But even if she has criticized Israel, it wasn’t in the piece.
To this commenter, I would say, eating ice cream is not antisemitic. Because it isn’t. But this piece isn’t about eating ice cream.
This piece is about clear and rabid instances of Jew hate. Which are antisemitic.
I certainly would not argue Kanye has uttered some unhinged words that are antisemitic. No idea about Tate as I barely know who he is. I am a Candace Owens fan. If you can offer examples of "clear and rabid instance of Jew hatred" I would greatly appreciate it. Please, no cutting and pasting off the ADL website.
Owens has questioned the historical accuracy of the Holocaust, suggesting that the number of Jewish deaths might have been exaggerated. This aligns with a common trope used by Holocaust deniers.
2. **Jewish Control Conspiracy**
She has implied that Jews have disproportionate control over media and politics, a claim that echoes classic antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jewish power and influence.
3. **Anti-Israel Rhetoric**
Owens has been vocal in her criticism of Israel, often using language that mirrors antisemitic stereotypes. For example, she has called Israel an "apartheid state" and accused it of committing genocide, which critics argue perpetuates negative stereotypes about Jewish power.
4. **Support for Kanye West's Antisemitic Remarks**
Owens defended Kanye West after he made antisemitic comments, including threats against Jewish people and praise for Hitler. She dismissed the backlash as "cancel culture" and refused to condemn his statements.
5. **Tweets and Social Media Posts**
She has shared tweets and posts interpreted as antisemitic. For instance, she once tweeted, "The Jewish community has been very quiet on the issue of white supremacy," which was seen as an attempt to shift blame onto Jewish people.
6. **Comments on Jewish Influence in Hollywood**
In an interview, Owens suggested that Jewish people control Hollywood and use it to push their agenda, reinforcing antisemitic tropes about Jewish dominance in the entertainment industry.
7. **Accusations of Jewish Responsibility for Persecution**
Owens has implied that Jewish people are responsible for their own persecution, a narrative that echoes historical antisemitic claims blaming Jews for antisemitism.
8. **Comments on Jewish Wealth**
She has made remarks about Jewish wealth and success, suggesting it is evidence of undue influence, which aligns with longstanding antisemitic stereotypes.
9. **Association with Antisemitic Figures**
Owens has been linked to individuals like Nick Fuentes, a known white supremacist and antisemite..
This is ridiculous. You are basically claiming truth is antisemitic.
1. **Holocaust Revisionism**
The Holocaust narrative is inaccurate and the number of Jewish deaths does appear to have been exaggerated.
2. **Jewish Control Conspiracy**
Jews do use their power and influence to control media and politics disproportionally to their numbers.
3. **Anti-Israel Rhetoric**
Israel is an "apartheid state" and is committing ethnic cleaning with such significant death that it does appear to be genocide
4. **Support for Kanye West's Antisemitic Remarks**
Kanye West was being bullied by Hollywood related personal trainer Harley Pasternak who was threatening to get West doped up so badly he could never engage with his children again.
5. **Tweets and Social Media Posts**
Many Jewish people were making books and articles about "white supremacy".
6. **Comments on Jewish Influence in Hollywood**
Are you arguing that Jewish people do not control Hollywood or just that we are not supposed to talk about it?
7. **Accusations of Jewish Responsibility for Persecution**
Jewish behavior is related to antisemitism. For example, the Jewish Zionist take over of large areas of Palestine using wealth, political influence and terrorism is related to the current Palestinian protests
8. **Comments on Jewish Wealth**
Jewish groups have used their wealth and power to influence US foreign policy to support Israel
The Holocaust—the systematic murder of approximately 6 million Jews by Nazi Germany during World War II—is one of the most thoroughly documented events in history. Let’s break this down.
The Evidence Behind the Holocaust
The figure of 6 million Jewish deaths isn’t a guess or a loose estimate. It’s grounded in a massive body of evidence:
Nazi Records: The Nazis were meticulous in documenting their actions. Documents like the Wannsee Conference protocols and camp records detail the scale of the killings.
Eyewitness Accounts: Thousands of survivors, liberators, and even perpetrators provided consistent testimonies about the atrocities.
Physical Evidence: Concentration camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka still contain gas chambers, crematoria, and mass graves that corroborate the scale of the genocide.
Demographic Studies: Pre-war and post-war Jewish population data show a catastrophic loss across Europe, aligning with the 6 million figure.
International Investigations: The Nuremberg Trials and decades of historical research by scholars like Raul Hilberg and Christopher Browning have validated these findings.
This isn’t to say every detail was perfectly recorded from the start. For instance, early estimates of deaths at Auschwitz were higher—sometimes cited as 4 million—before historians, using Nazi records and other evidence, revised it to around 1.1 million, with about 90% being Jewish. These adjustments reflect the normal process of historical refinement, not a conspiracy to inflate numbers.
No, the statement that "Jews do use their power and influence to control media and politics disproportionally to their numbers" is not true. It’s a textbook example of an antisemitic trope—a conspiracy theory rooted in prejudice rather than evidence. Let’s break it down step by step.
### The Origins of the Claim
This idea isn’t new. It stems from centuries-old stereotypes about Jewish people secretly controlling society. A key example is *The Protocols of the Elders of Zion*, a fabricated document from the early 1900s that claimed to reveal a Jewish plot for global domination. It’s been debunked repeatedly, but the myth keeps resurfacing. The statement you’ve asked about echoes this narrative, suggesting coordinated control without proof.
### Representation vs. Control
Jewish people are indeed represented in media and politics, sometimes at rates higher than their population share. For instance:
- In the United States, Jews make up about **2% of the population** but hold around **6% of seats in Congress**. That’s disproportionate, sure, but it’s not unique—other groups, like Asian Americans in tech or Irish Americans in law enforcement, also stand out in specific fields.
- In media, there are Jewish executives, like Bob Iger (CEO of Disney), but plenty of major players aren’t Jewish—Rupert Murdoch (News Corp) and Jeff Bezos (*The Washington Post*) are examples.
Does this mean "control"? No. Representation isn’t the same as domination. Success in these areas often ties back to historical factors—like a cultural emphasis on education and professional careers, partly due to past exclusion from other trades—not a secret agenda.
### No Evidence of Coordinated Control
If Jews disproportionately "controlled" media or politics, you’d expect to see a unified agenda favoring Jewish interests. That doesn’t hold up:
- **Media**: Outlets with Jewish leadership don’t align on any single narrative. *The New York Times* (owned by the Sulzberger family, who are Jewish) leans left, while *Fox News* (Murdoch, not Jewish) leans right. There’s no consistent "Jewish" slant.
- **Politics**: Jewish lawmakers are all over the map ideologically. Bernie Sanders (progressive) and Chuck Schumer (moderate) are Jewish, but so are conservatives like Ben Shapiro and Jared Kushner. No monolithic "Jewish agenda" exists.
The data shows diversity, not conspiracy. Correlation (some Jews in power) doesn’t mean causation (they’re pulling strings together).
### Why This Idea Sticks Around
Conspiracy theories like this simplify complex systems. Media and politics are shaped by wealth, ambition, and power dynamics—not a single group. Blaming Jews offers an easy scapegoat instead of wrestling with those messy realities. But simplicity isn’t truth.
### The Bottom Line
Jewish individuals, like people from any group, succeed in various fields. That’s not evidence of disproportionate control—it’s just people thriving where they can. The statement you asked about is a myth built on stereotypes, not facts. If you want to understand influence in media or politics, look at ownership, decision-making, and outcomes. You’ll see a mix of players, not a shadowy cabal. Questioning power is smart; pinning it on one group without evidence isn’t.
Complaining about Jewish overrepresentation is just another form of DEI. Jews are overrepresented in various things for the same reason that blacks are underrepresented. It's not about systemic discrimination.
Denying Jews are actually the Hebrews of her beloved Jesus ilk - howeverer they are actually a cult (Frankish?) child molestation / trafficking and sacrifice being their major value proposition.
I don't know how it fits in, but it is surely some derivation of the Kazarians child sacrificing storyline that's similarly deranged.
I still grieve the loss of Candace. Her mind, I mean. She was so smart and moral and I loved loving her. Admired her so much. But she seems to have got too close to Kanye, or something. What happened to her critical thinking?!
Me too. My wife and I lost track of Candice . When she reappeared we asked the same question: “What happened to Candice? We no longer have any interest in following her.
She speaks very cogently, but she's very susceptible to delusional magical right wing religious tropes.
I did find it funny that she said she had her mind changed about the state of Israel when she visited the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem and beleieved this indicated Jewish oppression if Muslims.
“right wing religious tropes”? WTF are you babbling about? I’m on the right. A conservative. Explain what you mean by that …who taught you that? It wasn’t a conservative on the right; we speak what we believe in easily understood language.
Of course criticism of Israel is not necessarily antisemitic. Is Chris Rufo saying that criticism of Israel is necessarily antisemitic? Of course not. Candace Owens and Kanye West are not mere "critics of Israel". Candace Owens stopped listening to Trump's inauguration speech when a rabbi began speaking, said that Stalin was Jewish, said that LBJ was Jewish, and so on. Kanye West constantly tweets about how Jews are bad.
I don’t think the word “Israel” was in the piece. I just re-skimmed it. Kanye West is known for saying antisemitic things that have nothing to do with Israel. A swastika is a Nazi symbol from before there was a state.
That comment is parody-level absurdity.
Al Sharpton wasn’t talking about Israel.
The antisemitism I have heard from Candace Owens has been about American Jews, not Israel. But even if she has criticized Israel, it wasn’t in the piece.
To this commenter, I would say, eating ice cream is not antisemitic. Because it isn’t. But this piece isn’t about eating ice cream.
This piece is about clear and rabid instances of Jew hate. Which are antisemitic.
I certainly would not argue Kanye has uttered some unhinged words that are antisemitic. No idea about Tate as I barely know who he is. I am a Candace Owens fan. If you can offer examples of "clear and rabid instance of Jew hatred" I would greatly appreciate it. Please, no cutting and pasting off the ADL website.
1. **Holocaust Revisionism**
Owens has questioned the historical accuracy of the Holocaust, suggesting that the number of Jewish deaths might have been exaggerated. This aligns with a common trope used by Holocaust deniers.
2. **Jewish Control Conspiracy**
She has implied that Jews have disproportionate control over media and politics, a claim that echoes classic antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jewish power and influence.
3. **Anti-Israel Rhetoric**
Owens has been vocal in her criticism of Israel, often using language that mirrors antisemitic stereotypes. For example, she has called Israel an "apartheid state" and accused it of committing genocide, which critics argue perpetuates negative stereotypes about Jewish power.
4. **Support for Kanye West's Antisemitic Remarks**
Owens defended Kanye West after he made antisemitic comments, including threats against Jewish people and praise for Hitler. She dismissed the backlash as "cancel culture" and refused to condemn his statements.
5. **Tweets and Social Media Posts**
She has shared tweets and posts interpreted as antisemitic. For instance, she once tweeted, "The Jewish community has been very quiet on the issue of white supremacy," which was seen as an attempt to shift blame onto Jewish people.
6. **Comments on Jewish Influence in Hollywood**
In an interview, Owens suggested that Jewish people control Hollywood and use it to push their agenda, reinforcing antisemitic tropes about Jewish dominance in the entertainment industry.
7. **Accusations of Jewish Responsibility for Persecution**
Owens has implied that Jewish people are responsible for their own persecution, a narrative that echoes historical antisemitic claims blaming Jews for antisemitism.
8. **Comments on Jewish Wealth**
She has made remarks about Jewish wealth and success, suggesting it is evidence of undue influence, which aligns with longstanding antisemitic stereotypes.
9. **Association with Antisemitic Figures**
Owens has been linked to individuals like Nick Fuentes, a known white supremacist and antisemite..
So questioning conflicting accounts is antisemitic? I thought that was how accurate history is recorded.
No but hers is far greater then that and actually has no purpose in most cases but to denigrate
This is ridiculous. You are basically claiming truth is antisemitic.
1. **Holocaust Revisionism**
The Holocaust narrative is inaccurate and the number of Jewish deaths does appear to have been exaggerated.
2. **Jewish Control Conspiracy**
Jews do use their power and influence to control media and politics disproportionally to their numbers.
3. **Anti-Israel Rhetoric**
Israel is an "apartheid state" and is committing ethnic cleaning with such significant death that it does appear to be genocide
4. **Support for Kanye West's Antisemitic Remarks**
Kanye West was being bullied by Hollywood related personal trainer Harley Pasternak who was threatening to get West doped up so badly he could never engage with his children again.
5. **Tweets and Social Media Posts**
Many Jewish people were making books and articles about "white supremacy".
6. **Comments on Jewish Influence in Hollywood**
Are you arguing that Jewish people do not control Hollywood or just that we are not supposed to talk about it?
7. **Accusations of Jewish Responsibility for Persecution**
Jewish behavior is related to antisemitism. For example, the Jewish Zionist take over of large areas of Palestine using wealth, political influence and terrorism is related to the current Palestinian protests
8. **Comments on Jewish Wealth**
Jewish groups have used their wealth and power to influence US foreign policy to support Israel
9. **Association with Antisemitic Figures**
It is OK to criticize Jews and Israel
The Holocaust—the systematic murder of approximately 6 million Jews by Nazi Germany during World War II—is one of the most thoroughly documented events in history. Let’s break this down.
The Evidence Behind the Holocaust
The figure of 6 million Jewish deaths isn’t a guess or a loose estimate. It’s grounded in a massive body of evidence:
Nazi Records: The Nazis were meticulous in documenting their actions. Documents like the Wannsee Conference protocols and camp records detail the scale of the killings.
Eyewitness Accounts: Thousands of survivors, liberators, and even perpetrators provided consistent testimonies about the atrocities.
Physical Evidence: Concentration camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka still contain gas chambers, crematoria, and mass graves that corroborate the scale of the genocide.
Demographic Studies: Pre-war and post-war Jewish population data show a catastrophic loss across Europe, aligning with the 6 million figure.
International Investigations: The Nuremberg Trials and decades of historical research by scholars like Raul Hilberg and Christopher Browning have validated these findings.
This isn’t to say every detail was perfectly recorded from the start. For instance, early estimates of deaths at Auschwitz were higher—sometimes cited as 4 million—before historians, using Nazi records and other evidence, revised it to around 1.1 million, with about 90% being Jewish. These adjustments reflect the normal process of historical refinement, not a conspiracy to inflate numbers.
No, the statement that "Jews do use their power and influence to control media and politics disproportionally to their numbers" is not true. It’s a textbook example of an antisemitic trope—a conspiracy theory rooted in prejudice rather than evidence. Let’s break it down step by step.
### The Origins of the Claim
This idea isn’t new. It stems from centuries-old stereotypes about Jewish people secretly controlling society. A key example is *The Protocols of the Elders of Zion*, a fabricated document from the early 1900s that claimed to reveal a Jewish plot for global domination. It’s been debunked repeatedly, but the myth keeps resurfacing. The statement you’ve asked about echoes this narrative, suggesting coordinated control without proof.
### Representation vs. Control
Jewish people are indeed represented in media and politics, sometimes at rates higher than their population share. For instance:
- In the United States, Jews make up about **2% of the population** but hold around **6% of seats in Congress**. That’s disproportionate, sure, but it’s not unique—other groups, like Asian Americans in tech or Irish Americans in law enforcement, also stand out in specific fields.
- In media, there are Jewish executives, like Bob Iger (CEO of Disney), but plenty of major players aren’t Jewish—Rupert Murdoch (News Corp) and Jeff Bezos (*The Washington Post*) are examples.
Does this mean "control"? No. Representation isn’t the same as domination. Success in these areas often ties back to historical factors—like a cultural emphasis on education and professional careers, partly due to past exclusion from other trades—not a secret agenda.
### No Evidence of Coordinated Control
If Jews disproportionately "controlled" media or politics, you’d expect to see a unified agenda favoring Jewish interests. That doesn’t hold up:
- **Media**: Outlets with Jewish leadership don’t align on any single narrative. *The New York Times* (owned by the Sulzberger family, who are Jewish) leans left, while *Fox News* (Murdoch, not Jewish) leans right. There’s no consistent "Jewish" slant.
- **Politics**: Jewish lawmakers are all over the map ideologically. Bernie Sanders (progressive) and Chuck Schumer (moderate) are Jewish, but so are conservatives like Ben Shapiro and Jared Kushner. No monolithic "Jewish agenda" exists.
The data shows diversity, not conspiracy. Correlation (some Jews in power) doesn’t mean causation (they’re pulling strings together).
### Why This Idea Sticks Around
Conspiracy theories like this simplify complex systems. Media and politics are shaped by wealth, ambition, and power dynamics—not a single group. Blaming Jews offers an easy scapegoat instead of wrestling with those messy realities. But simplicity isn’t truth.
### The Bottom Line
Jewish individuals, like people from any group, succeed in various fields. That’s not evidence of disproportionate control—it’s just people thriving where they can. The statement you asked about is a myth built on stereotypes, not facts. If you want to understand influence in media or politics, look at ownership, decision-making, and outcomes. You’ll see a mix of players, not a shadowy cabal. Questioning power is smart; pinning it on one group without evidence isn’t.
Complaining about Jewish overrepresentation is just another form of DEI. Jews are overrepresented in various things for the same reason that blacks are underrepresented. It's not about systemic discrimination.
I'm praying for you right now.
It is okay to criticize Jews and Israel. Agreed. Of course it is.
It's unacceptable to rebleat manure, hoping to smear.
Denying Jews are actually the Hebrews of her beloved Jesus ilk - howeverer they are actually a cult (Frankish?) child molestation / trafficking and sacrifice being their major value proposition.
I don't know how it fits in, but it is surely some derivation of the Kazarians child sacrificing storyline that's similarly deranged.
I liked Candace during covid. Very brave.
I would consider her a shock jock of sorts. Would you? Or do you consider her to be someone who speaks carefully and with seriousness?
Well not quite. Command f "Israel" turns up 4 hits from the piece. It is briefly mentioned.
You're a bad skimmer..
Well it's easy to miss a few brief mentions if you just skim.
I still grieve the loss of Candace. Her mind, I mean. She was so smart and moral and I loved loving her. Admired her so much. But she seems to have got too close to Kanye, or something. What happened to her critical thinking?!
Have you listened to her lately? This smearing of her is not in good faith.
Oh come on you don’t be ridiculous. She is dumb.
Me too. My wife and I lost track of Candice . When she reappeared we asked the same question: “What happened to Candice? We no longer have any interest in following her.
She's basically a grifter.
She speaks very cogently, but she's very susceptible to delusional magical right wing religious tropes.
I did find it funny that she said she had her mind changed about the state of Israel when she visited the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem and beleieved this indicated Jewish oppression if Muslims.
“right wing religious tropes”? WTF are you babbling about? I’m on the right. A conservative. Explain what you mean by that …who taught you that? It wasn’t a conservative on the right; we speak what we believe in easily understood language.