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A.'s avatar

Oh, I know Rudolf Steiner and the Waldorf Schools....quite well. It was the next step after Louisa May Alcott led me to the American Transcendentalists.

You wouldn't guess this of a never-WOKE individual.

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laura's avatar

lol, I love their architecture though.

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A.'s avatar

I visited the Goetheanum in Switzerland as a starving student. They argued about giving me a tour. I had enough left in my meal-funds for a bowl of soup in their cafe. I watched the earnest wealthy Anthroposophists around me chugging down full courses, and decadent desserts. So much for the healthy lifestyle beliefs. No one offered to pick up my meagre tab, for having taught in a Waldorf School for them at zero pay in an internship.

I wasn't quite as enamoured after that.

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laura's avatar

lol, I went to Naropa Institute for a year, 1980, holy crap, what a bunch of human dysfunction wrapped up in Transcendent spirituality.

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A.'s avatar

I know exactly what you mean. Many of the Naropa nuts of Colorado eventually relocated to Atlantic Canada in a cult. And bothered the Hell out of the locals, where they scammed the best jobs for themselves and spread AIDS. Sold drugs in the schools.

Lovely folks.

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laura's avatar

Damn.... you sound fun, I am so bored lately, no friends anymore in Berkeley, can't talk with most of my family, Democrats.

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A.'s avatar

How do you survive as a non-WOKE in Berkeley? It was once the centre of the Neo-Marxist universe.

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laura's avatar

Still is. Meanness is a cultural norm here. As a local organizer in public safety and youth issues, I became the hero/villian against CSJ 20+ years ago. Thus, I accepted the dehumanization that comes with leadership some time ago, I believed in the mission. Now a tired out 70 year old, I realize the experiences I had were more distressing and damaging then I imagined.

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A.'s avatar

I hear you, Laura. There have always been some of us over the decades who saw what was actually going on, and said NO. The tales I have to tell.... I imagine you have such tales too.

I have never been a feminist, for instance. Can you believe it? Is this possible? I am well-educated in stalwart universities, and I am not a religious extremist. However, I do connect the dots of life awfully well. And I dare not ignore what the dot-connects tell me.

I wish you well in unfriendly Berkeley. Steels the soul.....you have to believe something good comes out of a Herculean task!

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laura's avatar

thanks, we are looking for where to move, husband retires this week. my kid we're still close with lives in Portland now, can't decide if I can tolerate Portland to enjoy my grandchild coming in Oct. Haven't been able to leave California, love the nature so much.

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A.'s avatar

Life throws difficult choices our way sometimes. If it makes you feel any better, the whole continent is ablaze with creeping totalitarianism just now....so choose on a meaningful basis for yourselves. Maybe wait to see how the November election goes.

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Donald Kosloff's avatar

I grew up in beautiful Northern California and left to attend the U.S. Naval Academy. Employment opportunities and marriage has left me in Ohio. As much as I loved my small California hometown, our 5 grandchildren outweigh everything else.

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