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Eugine Nier's avatar

Anyone throwing around accusations of "fascism" is not to be trusted.

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Vonu's avatar

Unless their accusations are spot on, as rare as that may be.

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Tommaso di Maria's avatar

True, but we must insist upon definition from the person.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

The problem is that "fascism" has no definition outside the context of mid 20th century Italian and German politics. And even that conflates Fascism with Nazism even though the two philosophies had rather important differences.

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Vonu's avatar

The problem is that many of those who define fascism find themselves forced to make their preferred system not appear to be synonymous.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

They define "fascism" to mean "resembles Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy in whatever way I deem relevant".

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Vonu's avatar

Who are "they?"

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Eugine Nier's avatar

The people who like to throw around the word "fascism".

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Vonu's avatar

Is your circularity your only defense?

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Tommaso di Maria's avatar

Yes. Same with "Marxism" and "Communism" becoming mere rhetorical devices.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

No, Marxism and Communism were worked out universal theories before any governments adopted them.

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Tommaso di Maria's avatar

Marxism was, but Lenin and Mussolini were his greatest students/interpreters - both were theorists and practitioners, and analogous to one another as Soviet Communism and Italian Fascism were to one another.

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Christopher F. Rufo's avatar

Quite interesting that fascist politics emerges directly from Marxist politics. Few know this.

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Tommaso di Maria's avatar

It is not at all strange that Italy was so Marxist after the War, nor that Fascist and Communist movements should behave so interchangeably (E. Germany, Romania, etc.).

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Vonu's avatar

Or the definition of the person from whom they accepted it.

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