Your post implies that men are all about logic and critical thinking and women are all about feeling. Histrionic behavior is also not about "feelings," it is about manipulation and acting out of personal conflicts at the expense of others. It has nothing to do with so-called "women's values" of care and compassion. Men also are capable o…
Your post implies that men are all about logic and critical thinking and women are all about feeling. Histrionic behavior is also not about "feelings," it is about manipulation and acting out of personal conflicts at the expense of others. It has nothing to do with so-called "women's values" of care and compassion. Men also are capable of care and compassion. Do you see any increase in care and compassion among leftists? I don't. Cluster B disorders are not about femininity, although borderline personality disorder has historically been more prevalent in women. Narcissism and sociopathy are both much more prevalent in men.
Hi Sandra. I don’t intend to imply that I could address with any expertise or conclusions about cluster b, histrionics, narcissism or sociopathy.
I have observed empirically that logic and critical thinking are often missing in our society as a whole. Admittedly, I have no formal education on those subjects either. Other than my sister/best friend has taught both subjects in college for forty years. She has schooled me for that same period, and has never let me get by with any generalizations.
I do believe that the feminists of the last twenty plus years have distorted, lost the plot so to speak, of the women’s rights movement.
They have gained a loud voice, educational monopoly of sorts and in general made a mess of things. The result is an imbalance between the male and the female. Balance being the key word.
Female narcissists manifest differently, with 'covert narcissism' being more common. Same disorder, different manifestation. More focus on gaslighting and manipulation rather than bombast. It's like claiming autism is a male-only disorder, females on the spectrum are just different.
Completely agree. Plus all women are narcissistic to a degree anyway, which is not the case with men. Women are comfortable presenting a false image to puff themselves up which we consider vanity but is in fact narcissism, albeit often quite mild. But the manifestation of aggression is what differs. Men are direct, women indirect. Your dinner's in the dog etc.
Clinical narcissism is a matter of degree and hitting the 5 out of 9 criteria. A lot of people manifest narcissistic traits. I personally think the Venn diagram of salespeople and narcissists is a circle. Lots of men in that group too.
If I felt like my future depended on my appearance and ability to attract mates, vanity would be a feature, i'm sure. I actually feel sorry for women. They get the red carpet early in life and then the raspberry later on. I don't know how I would handle that. I might have agreed fully with you pre-recovery, but the whole being a better person thing means being self-aware and acknowledging the limits of that, where I just don't know how it would feel. And realizing I have my own inventory of issues...I shouldn't take others'
I agree with what you say. They are judged on their looks, and they are wired for it. But it still has an effect on society. That is what we are concerned with, not the unfairness of biology.
The way it was handled in the past was recognition that those impressive looks fade quickly, and social structures put in place to help the ladies cash in when they had maximum choice, all of it organized by women. Now they are told they can delay things beyond the point of no return, also organized by women. That doesn't seem to be working for them.
So many ‘hot’ women who sleep around thinking at any moment they can decide to settle down and get that 1 in 100 guy. And they can’t. Suddenly 38 or 39 years old and tired of the bars and the 1 in 100 guy they expected is taken and has two kids. They are lucky to get top 40%. Which they do not, will not accept.
There is a very clear strain of thinking in western females that reflects your comment.
Party away your 20s. Get serious in early 30s, believing they may not get 8s or 9s but can probably "date down" and get a 7 with money only to find out their contemporaries, men in their mid-thirties, can date 27 year olds.
Tik Tok has thousands of videos of confused 34 year old career women baffled as to their lack of options. All nudged along by miserable forty something women who are off their heads on anti-depressants trying to convince them 40 is the new 21 and their best years are ahead of them.
Meanwhile none of them will tolerate conversations about basic biology. Watching an otherwise normal woman have a meltdown at 37 when they are told their prime fertility window is 16-32.
It is the very definition of a clown world.
But my absolute favourite is seeing mid thirties women be told men value youth and purity, by which they mean women in their twenties. For many it is their first taste of what being a man is like. Guaranteed invisibility to the opposite sex. No one cutting them any slack.
It is astonishing when they use it with college educated girls. I want a six-foot guy, athletic build who earns 150k a year. Then they reveal that is 0.25% of the population. The look on their faces when they try to process that is amazing to watch.
I am not so sure narcissism and sociopathy are more prevalent in men. We hold male examples of narcissism and sociopathy as THE definitions. Most guys have had to endure more than one female narcissist in their lives. It is different though. It is quiet entitlement, with passive aggressive punishments when the demand is not met. As opposed to overt. Same as sociopathy. Think of how many women marry for money. That is female sociopathy.
Yep I’ve seen histrionic men. They are less common though than overly emotional women. Both sexes can exhibit toxic traits. Why does this even need to be said?
Your post implies that men are all about logic and critical thinking and women are all about feeling. Histrionic behavior is also not about "feelings," it is about manipulation and acting out of personal conflicts at the expense of others. It has nothing to do with so-called "women's values" of care and compassion. Men also are capable of care and compassion. Do you see any increase in care and compassion among leftists? I don't. Cluster B disorders are not about femininity, although borderline personality disorder has historically been more prevalent in women. Narcissism and sociopathy are both much more prevalent in men.
Hi Sandra. I don’t intend to imply that I could address with any expertise or conclusions about cluster b, histrionics, narcissism or sociopathy.
I have observed empirically that logic and critical thinking are often missing in our society as a whole. Admittedly, I have no formal education on those subjects either. Other than my sister/best friend has taught both subjects in college for forty years. She has schooled me for that same period, and has never let me get by with any generalizations.
I do believe that the feminists of the last twenty plus years have distorted, lost the plot so to speak, of the women’s rights movement.
They have gained a loud voice, educational monopoly of sorts and in general made a mess of things. The result is an imbalance between the male and the female. Balance being the key word.
I agree that many young feminists have lost the plot.
Female narcissists manifest differently, with 'covert narcissism' being more common. Same disorder, different manifestation. More focus on gaslighting and manipulation rather than bombast. It's like claiming autism is a male-only disorder, females on the spectrum are just different.
My ex-wife was a covert, and 14 years of scars...
Completely agree. Plus all women are narcissistic to a degree anyway, which is not the case with men. Women are comfortable presenting a false image to puff themselves up which we consider vanity but is in fact narcissism, albeit often quite mild. But the manifestation of aggression is what differs. Men are direct, women indirect. Your dinner's in the dog etc.
Clinical narcissism is a matter of degree and hitting the 5 out of 9 criteria. A lot of people manifest narcissistic traits. I personally think the Venn diagram of salespeople and narcissists is a circle. Lots of men in that group too.
I agree. But women definitely display strong narcissistic traits as a matter of routine.
If I felt like my future depended on my appearance and ability to attract mates, vanity would be a feature, i'm sure. I actually feel sorry for women. They get the red carpet early in life and then the raspberry later on. I don't know how I would handle that. I might have agreed fully with you pre-recovery, but the whole being a better person thing means being self-aware and acknowledging the limits of that, where I just don't know how it would feel. And realizing I have my own inventory of issues...I shouldn't take others'
I agree with what you say. They are judged on their looks, and they are wired for it. But it still has an effect on society. That is what we are concerned with, not the unfairness of biology.
The way it was handled in the past was recognition that those impressive looks fade quickly, and social structures put in place to help the ladies cash in when they had maximum choice, all of it organized by women. Now they are told they can delay things beyond the point of no return, also organized by women. That doesn't seem to be working for them.
So many ‘hot’ women who sleep around thinking at any moment they can decide to settle down and get that 1 in 100 guy. And they can’t. Suddenly 38 or 39 years old and tired of the bars and the 1 in 100 guy they expected is taken and has two kids. They are lucky to get top 40%. Which they do not, will not accept.
There is a very clear strain of thinking in western females that reflects your comment.
Party away your 20s. Get serious in early 30s, believing they may not get 8s or 9s but can probably "date down" and get a 7 with money only to find out their contemporaries, men in their mid-thirties, can date 27 year olds.
Tik Tok has thousands of videos of confused 34 year old career women baffled as to their lack of options. All nudged along by miserable forty something women who are off their heads on anti-depressants trying to convince them 40 is the new 21 and their best years are ahead of them.
Meanwhile none of them will tolerate conversations about basic biology. Watching an otherwise normal woman have a meltdown at 37 when they are told their prime fertility window is 16-32.
It is the very definition of a clown world.
But my absolute favourite is seeing mid thirties women be told men value youth and purity, by which they mean women in their twenties. For many it is their first taste of what being a man is like. Guaranteed invisibility to the opposite sex. No one cutting them any slack.
How did it come to this?
To your point: https://igotstandardsbro.com/
I have seen this in videos. Lol.
It is astonishing when they use it with college educated girls. I want a six-foot guy, athletic build who earns 150k a year. Then they reveal that is 0.25% of the population. The look on their faces when they try to process that is amazing to watch.
I am not so sure narcissism and sociopathy are more prevalent in men. We hold male examples of narcissism and sociopathy as THE definitions. Most guys have had to endure more than one female narcissist in their lives. It is different though. It is quiet entitlement, with passive aggressive punishments when the demand is not met. As opposed to overt. Same as sociopathy. Think of how many women marry for money. That is female sociopathy.
Yep I’ve seen histrionic men. They are less common though than overly emotional women. Both sexes can exhibit toxic traits. Why does this even need to be said?