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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Great investigation. Lurie and all "centrist" California Democrats are too terrified of their base to cooperate with ICE and save lives with deportations. Most of the Hondurans are from the Siria Valley, where they have built mansions with their fortunes adorned with flags SF sports teams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2og-VL4Kyc

R.A. Watman (Anne)'s avatar

Too terrified of their base, but apparently not that terrified of seeing their city turn into one big s**t hole.

JC Collins's avatar

The only way the city will get rid of these criminals is if the toxic empathy party is voted out.

Sea Sentry's avatar

Not likely in Navy Blue San Francisco.

Brian Jones's avatar

Saddening and sickening—the people’s lives down the toilets. Get ICE in there and ban/block all who try to return or face severe imprisonment. This is a national issue. SF laws can’t supersede, illegal. Pathetic California government.

Sea Sentry's avatar

My son lives there. He was just badly beat up by two clients of the dealers looking for money for their next fix. His face was black and blue and he lost a bunch of teeth, so some expensive dentistry I coming. He didn’t bother to report it. They get out right away, and that will just piss them off more, he said. This is the unseen collateral damage of a libertine drug culture that happens every day but doesn’t make the papers.

Brian Jones's avatar

Sorry your son went through that.

Sea Sentry's avatar

Apprecciate that Brian.

Mark's avatar

It is seen and known about collateral damage and people like your son accept it because they like living in SF or they are forced to live there to have the kind of job they want to have. And you need to ask your son the questions which are asked all the time. Who did you vote for? What have you done to change the culture? Do you actually like this culture and want to preserve it?

Sea Sentry's avatar

He’s extremely empathetic and instinctively liberal, though I’m not sure if he votes regularly. Like many bleeding hearts, he doesn’t connect the outcomes he deplores to the politics he supports.

Mark's avatar

That's pretty much what we see everywhere.

Brian Jones's avatar

What they really need is to turn their lives around-/the addicts, the dealers, and the government. And turn to and obey the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Titus 2:11-14.

Brian Jones's avatar

We need divine intervention literally. Prayer and the word of Jesus Christ is needed.

James M.'s avatar

Remember: this is all a policy choice. Powerful people are seeing this and deciding it's acceptable... that other aims (bureaucratic expansion, political expediency, fashion & social status) are more important than citizen safety and law & order.

https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/bukeles-rebuke

Dennisfromhb's avatar

Please continue with such excellent reporting and investigation.

Mary Grande's avatar

So, Trump and ICE are vilified but in the final analysis are proven right? I surely do not understand the American liberal democratic movement. I guess democrats, are willing to sacrifice their own safety, country, addicts and law abiding citizens at the alter of what - pretending that all illegals are good people who contribute to the fabric of America? There is something seriously deviant, not in the criminals, but in the Americans who hold such views that go against all reason.

Jonathan Miller's avatar

Their mindset is tribal and religious in nature, not based on the hard facts of the real world. Don't you know the world is only 6,000 years old, some saint or prophet from 2000 years ago knew everything that anyone ever needs to know about life, etc.

Pawletto's avatar

I recently dropped in briefly to SF to visit the main branch of San Francisco Public Library. I arrived early (on Fridays they open at noon) and so I walked around a bit beforehand. It has been perhaps 20 years since I'd been into the city and the vibe has changed, and not for the better. The feeling was depressed, as if a once beautiful city, with monuments of architecture and art had grown long in the tooth and had not been cared for in a very long time. And while the UN Plaza/Civic Center is not quite within the Tenderloin proper, it was sad to experience. The spirit of a place, the physical bones of it, requires tending by an inspired people, and this part of the great "Baghdad by the Bay" is in need of such respect and love. Maybe instead of a month of pride for genders, we join together and remember a pride for the past that carried us to this point in time.

John's avatar

Karl Malden would be aghast.

Alex Valentine's avatar

Aside from all the bigger--and valid--criticism of progressive policies that enable this (I've lived there years ago, this has been building for a long time), the very basic issue of allowing people to wear masks and balaclavas in public is insane. It used to be a guy in a ski mask meant 'evil shit is about to go down' and it should mean that again. Mask wearing outside in public should be illegal, period.

Randy Roeder's avatar

Next time you see an anti-ICE attack on the streets, check out the sanctimonious look of bitter hatred on the faces of the truly ugly progressive women who are shrieking, screaming and screeching their vile slogans as they hurl rocks, boards and anything else that can cause injury to the agents. Then shake your head at the commentators on local news who wonder how any anyone can be opposed opposed to such a righteous and benign cause as sanctuary status that many cities and some states have adopted. The former are the foot soldiers for sanctuary cities and states.

Brian Villanueva's avatar

This is a policy choice. You want to know how to fix this (even in a highly pluralistic society) look to Singapore: https://www.tembusulaw.com/insights/singapore-drug-laws/

This can be fixed. Maybe Singapore's methods are too rough for you, but realize you're choosing chaos and criminality over order and morality.

Jill Singleton's avatar

I wonder what the SF Chronicle has reported on this. They are located at 5th and Market….and have been for a zillion years.

Jonathan Miller's avatar

Democrats don't understand cause and effect. They are incapable of recognizing that the conditions around them are the result of their irrational and destructive policies. They think the world just is how it is, and if they wave their magic wand it'll get better. They believe only good things can come from their fantasies. It's the same with taxation and wealth. They think wealth just exists, and it's unfairly distributed, so they want to redistribute it more evenly, without recognizing the downstream effects of economic decline through the departure of the wealth creators. Essentially, Democrats, like any zealots, are unqualified to run anything.

Mark In Houston's avatar

What a hell hole - and more of same can be expected without serious, ongoing intervention that includes immigration enforcement. Lurie has pointed things in the right direction - but he has much more to do to change the outrageous and toxic conditions on the streets.

THG's avatar

Meanwhile, CA progressives are tripping over themselves hating ICE, protesting, and voting on one issue only: who can stand up to Trump (meaning obstructing deportations and dishing out federal money in handouts to illegals by all means necessary). I wonder what degree of self-destruction would it take for these people to ever wake up?

Tender Morsel's avatar

A century ago there was a book of photos of the NYC tenements called “How The Other Half Lives”. They were meant to shock and did. These photos of the Tenderloin are even more shocking, or ought to be. Californians, how much longer are you going to tolerate this?