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Vonu's avatar

They had the same lack of connection to the Israelite diaspora.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

You have to remember that in Czarist Russia, which was marked byr religious persecution and forced military service and the Czarist hope that Jews would either immigrate ,or assimilate, Marxism was very atractive to Jews because of its rhetoric about social justice . However, Stalin proved that Marxism in practice had no room for Trotsky and especially sought to suppress and eradicate Jewish observance and education and after 1948 was the Soviets were especially anti Israel

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Vonu's avatar

I'm talking about Israelites, not Jews.

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Steven Brizel's avatar

The Jewish Peop[e are the physical and spiritual descendants of the "Israelites' who are referred to in the Torah as the Children of Israel. Any student of the Bible knows that the same people who left Egypt and received the Torah built a Golden Calif for which they were forgiven and entered into a new covenant with God.

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Vonu's avatar

Students of the bible finally find out it is a compilation of parables separated by lies.

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Vonu's avatar

Since the Bible was written by human beings, beginning three decades after Jesus Christ disincarnated, they had to make everything up that they couldn't remember accurately.

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Vonu's avatar

I still think that Eben Alexander's representation in Proof of Heaven is more spot on than any version of any holy book.

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Coram Nobis's avatar

Um, when exactly where they "forgiven" for breaking the biblical Covenant with God? And when, where & what is the "new covenant?

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Moses shattered or dropped the stone upon which the Ten Commandments which contained both the Written Law and the Oral Law. After beseeching God not to destroy the Jewish People, Moses went back up on Mt Sinai, came back down on the date that corresponds to Yom Kippur and stated that all was forgiven and that a new covenant had been entered but one which required the Jewish People to adhere to and transmit the Oral Law after deep study of the same which was eventually compiled in the Talmud to future generations

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Coram Nobis's avatar

Steven, thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it!

One more question please, why are Ultra Orthodox Jews so against the creation of modern Israel?

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The issue of Zionism divided the Orthodox world before the Holocaust on theological grounds The ultra Orthodox world by no means universally opposed Zionism and the creation of such a state but there is much evidence on the ground that today’s ultra Orthodox world completely supports the response of Netanyahu against the pogrom committed last week

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James Martin's avatar

Your "jew boy" reference is evidence of your own divisive and hateful nature and tarnishes the validity of any good points you might otherwise be making. You become part of the problem with this ugly name calling. Have it in yourself to do better than this.

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Jim Johnson's avatar

time to see a psychiatrist.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

I breifly looked at this guys website. Appears to be a schizo.

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Jim Johnson's avatar

see several psychiatrists.

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Throgmorton's avatar

Bloody hell! Any mention of the Jews brings out the quacking wackadoodles in full force!

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Steven Brizel's avatar

Marxists like Leon Trotsky and Rosa Luxemburg had zero affinity or sympathy for the travails of theJewish People in Russia or Germany.

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Vonu's avatar

Given that it took the USSR 27 million dead soldiers to beat the Nazis, one would think they'd rather have taken on the Jewish Bolsheviks in the Ukraine later.

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Vonu's avatar

Zionists are massively more dedicated to that process.

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Vonu's avatar

I think that Eben Alexander has a better representation of the creator than all of the translations of all of the holy books combined.

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