As a 52 year old black man and married to a white woman for 27 years let me make a quick point. Nick Fuentes is SO FAR off of my radar he might as well not even exist. I am a Christian. I am a Conservative. None of these things is Nick Fuentes. MOVE ON.
I see no charisma in Nick Fuentes only bombast. He is not a reasoned servant to truth he is a load mouth provocateur with a historical and politically immature market easily propagandized looking for quick blame.
Your take is true, but MOVE ON is not the correct response, because the Left is not moving on, they're taking the opening Fuentes is giving them and doing real damage to the conservative cause and therefore to our society.
Rufo nailed it. Fuentes is not a Nazi; he's something worse. A chaos agent deliberately wrecking our society at a critical moment in time, simply for his own selfish purposes. We need to expose the game he's playing and neutralize the harm he's enabling the Left to do via his posing.
I can't control what the Left does. They are finucking NUTS and we all know it. I only have so many years to live. I'm not going to waste energy on pieces of s*** that will have no effect on my day to day life.
I'm also 52, Dan. We're just the wrong generation. Fuentes is popular with young men. He doesn't resonate with us. He doesn't WANT to resonate with us. But he does for them.
That said, I think Chris' suggestion of how those of us in our generation should deal with him is correct. Don't engage with his "ideas" (of which he has few as he tends to throw spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks this week) but focus on him as an intellectual fraud.
Young men are attracted to him (and other manosphere types) because they crave meaning and authenticity. But they're not stupid.
Chris, you've got one guy defending himself against a mob of uncritical and mostly thoughtless commenters, and censorship over a seemingly profane acronym is your answer? I don't know this person and I don't particularly like his style, but I love this person as Christ would encourage me to do. I've got a novel idea: How about a commenter engage him a little better argument than the one he's making and you stop acting like your follower's mother? Gee, all of a sudden I feel like Einstein.
By this standard. giving him an uncritical platform, as Tucker did, is absolutely the wrong approach since it validates him as a real thinker, which he is not.
I appreciated the Tucker interview so that I could evaluate Fuentes on his ideas rather than listen to overly emotional reactions that has piqued everyone’s curiosity. He had a couple of correct historical takes that were surrounded by immature idiotic beliefs. I can now give a non-emotional straight forward opinion about Fuentes & have zero desire to listen to him as I wouldn’t learn anything from him - I know all I need to know. Sure he’s smart & forceful in his speech but he’s also emotionally stunted & has a chip on his shoulder for anyone who has ever wronged him. Shapiro/daily wire are the ones that made Fuentes as big as he is by popularizing him via the Streisand effect (you learn that from the interview). If you don’t want to make him a big name then stop saying his name.
Not at all - did you listen to the interview? He was on a long interview w/PBD as well. You cant hide in the long interviews & it exposes who he really is - an immature guy w/a big mouth spewing the same ideas over & over. He’s a mouthpiece & nothing more.
As is customary, Rufo hits the nail on the head. Its the simple law of supply and demand: for years, the left has ginned up demand for nazism, with too little supply to satisfy their cravings. Fuentes came to fill in the supply and reap the economic reward for doing so. He is a conman and agitator, nothing more.
Tucker is creating havoc on the right. He’s doing a great job at fracturing the MAGA coalition and the consequences will be dire. And when I see all of the apologists who won’t stand up to him because of the power of his platform and influence it makes me question if I want to be associated with any of the craven cowards. The people with power in MAGA, including the president and his cabinet need to have a talk with him.
Fuentes is what happens when you have several decades of debased education, demonization of men, and an explosion of always online culture. Carlson is however an evil power monger who is far from an actual Conservative. Both need to be rejected by actual Conservatives.
Mr. Rufo, you have classified Fuentes correctly; he is putting on a show. But Fuentes isn't the issue, the issue is Tucker Carlson. Carlson also puts on a show, but he is systematically rehabilitating hatred of Jews and defending Hitler and other dictators (e.g. Putin and the Iranian mullahs and Maduro) while pretending he's "just asking questions." Carlson too deserves cool analysis, but that includes recognizing and saying boldly that he is doing evil.
Fuentes is disgusting. His parents have to be fully humiliated. At least I hope they are. Yes, I believe he’s so crude and rude for attention and he’s getting it. That doesn’t make him any less disgusting that he’s playing people. What a horrible piece of humanity.
He speaks no truth. He’s a liar and a grandstander and disgusting. He doesn’t help this country one bit. The fact so many people think of him as you do is way more horrifying. You’re just his pawn.
Your caricatures of Fuentes opposition are to say the least just that. The accusations can easily be turned on Fuentes because in the age of the internet he has found a market of unreasonable resentment and self-pity and cashed in on it. Cowardly in their own way his followers seem mostly young and lazy and too ignorant to even know how to enter into the political give and take. I do not see them in the trenches only making strident adolescent screams blaming everyone but themselves and being vile and punk provocative as they do it. That is Fuentes schtick to use a Jewish term.
What about Tucker Carlson? Isn’t his Putin-loving, Churchill-hating all a clickbaiting act? Isn’t he in the same category as Fuentes, just with a bigger audience? What should Conservatives do about him?
This is the most ridiculous commentary I have read this week. Fuentes has been toiling in the Dissident Right field since 2016. When I first met him, then later followed him he had mild views about the Jewish Question and other matters. As he told Carlson he was a Mark Levin listener and a Libertarian back then as most radical young conservatives were. In 2018, things shifted dramatically because an Alt Right and Alt Light phenomenon bubbled up from the grass roots. Fuentes and millions of other conservatives were red-pilled by the information that became available to them because of the internet. The Alt Right exploded and Fuentes jumped in. Over time Fuentes, because he is an exceptional communicator (a prodigy) and has high intelligence and charisma, developed a strong following. He adeptly formed the Groyper club, which might be seen as a nerdier and more Catholic version of McInnes's Proud Boys. They are a refreshing group of young and proud white men who are fighting for western civilization. They rightly see the Establishment Right as a cowardly and comfortable, Zionist, country club that needs to go away. The new breed is shoving them out the door. The Zionists are using their considerable wealth and influence to keep them inside the house. Thus, this is a shoving match between pro-white, Christian, masculinists/nationalists against the Zionist fueled, phony Christian country club slob Republicans. It was never difficult for me to decide which side I am on.
You entered the scene as an anti-woke crusader, which is like swimming in the intermediate section of the pool. We are glad for your inside the Overton Wisdom leadership, but we also know there are many more pro-white martyrs out there like Fuentes and many hundreds of thousands more to the right of him that are on the front lines taking more risk. Fuentes takes more risk than you. I believe you should quietly support him by saying nothing.
I agree. I find this hysteria unbelievable. An interview of Fuentes by Carlson has caused the “Right” to lose their minds. And the Jews (Levin, Shapiro, etc.) are apoplectic. What is actually going in here? The “Left” can and do say whatever they want about anyone and anything, even to the point of encouraging assassinating members of the “Right”, and their party embraces them. We have a conversation between two Conservatives and the party is ready to cancel, silence, obliterate them. I am disgusted. Our Country is on the brink of being taken over by invading Islamists. We should be fighting for our very lives over this. To say nothing of the mortal attacks of big pharma, chemtrails, big tech, food suppliers, corporations of every kind … I can barely keep track. And this interview is what’s set the “Right” establishment on fire? Something is way off here.
Sure. As I understand it, the Jewish Question is: How can Jews, who have small numbers in western populations have so much influence over finance, culture, media, and governments? Are influential Jews, including especially Zionists, and especially in the United States and Europe, using their influence to diminish white people? From the perspective of white advocates, and unaddressed by Establishmentarians like Rufo, the answer to the second half of the question is undoubtedly Yes. Books have been written about the subject. The answer to the first half of the question is more nuanced and there are different opinions. I believe the power is the result of in-group preference, high intelligence, and work ethic. I see these aspects as strengths of the Jewish community. The Groypers and other white advocates believe white people need to mimic the Jewish success formula by organizing and acting confidently to rebuild their nations. This is the conversation focus Rufo does not want to have because it is too hot to handle. Carlson, to his great credit, is having that honest conversation.
Basically, it is the question of what role Jews have played in our current political situation. They are very small part of the population but have been extremely influential in national politics, especially the left - a pattern that has repeated in recent history in a other nations. The question is why and what they were trying to accomplish.
Why the overrepresentation? Answers range from they just have a superior culture or they have higher IQs to they are trying to destroy Western Civilization. Obviously, the Nazis thought there was a conspiracy, as many others did at the time. Now, with IQ tests, we can see that Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ than any other group, which might explain the overrepresentation. For those that deny IQ differences, it's a conundrum.
This article essentially strawmans Fuentes by reducing him to his most sensational quotes, which is precisely the strategy his critics use in their attempt to silence him. While I appreciate the Baudrillardian description, I believe Fuentes is sincere and should be taken at face value, and most of the people trying to reduce him to "Holocaust denial" clips have not actually watched his show at any length, and do not fundamentally understand his appeal, and as a result, they will struggle to constrain his influence. I believe he deserves to be heard and taken seriously, and the people who feel entitled to dictate the terms of discourse on the right are the ones whose place in the movement we should be skeptical of.
That we do not have meaningful sovereignty in our country as long as this issue is a third-rail. The hostage video that Kevin Roberts was forced to release for the crime of daring to defend someone who had an interview with someone on the naughty list is emblematic of the behavior that alienated people like myself from the left. If we are serious about the claim to be the side of open debate, we need to engage with Nick Fuentes' claims about Israeli, and yes, Jewish, influence on American society, in a way that goes beyond attempting to poison the well with a few selectively-chosen clips. His fundamental point, that he makes again and again, is that this isn't about a clip from 11 years ago, and the outrage over it is insincere. If he were nothing more than some jokes in poor taste years ago, no one would have ever heard of him. People acting in bad faith are choosing to fixate on those clips to avoid addressing his broader point: the fact that this lobby has the power to bring down the Heritage Foundation, the fact that anti-Semitism, and not anti-Americanism, has the power to bring down Ivy League academia, the fact that you can be a gay man with children by surrogacy and belong to the conservative movement, but not critical of this lobby, that is the real conversation.
I appreciate you responding, Chris, and I'll be honest, I really admired your work around Ivy League campus reform. When Claudine Gay was removed, I was genuinely optimistic about the prospect of real change, but watching how the only thing that has meaningfully changed has been the reorientation of the Middle East studies departments towards Zionism, and watching how the Trump administration's campus reform efforts have seemingly focused more on anti-Israeli than anti-American sentiment, I'm disheartened, and admittedly, watching that dynamic play out is part of what has pushed me into Fuentes' camp.
In other words, if the only lever that has the power to meaningfully disrupt Ivy League education in America, even under the Trump administration, is the prospect of campus anti-Semitism, Fuentes is fundamentally right about who controls our country.
Fuentes gave a good take on Mark Levin's reaction to his Tucker Carlson interview the other night, either yesterday or Monday. This is why I support him. I'd encourage you to watch this clip. This is who I see him as, rather than the clip of admittedly bad jokes he made years ago that people keep trying to throw around demanding he be held "accountable" for them, like the woke left at the height of the cancel culture era.
If you want to understand why he's popular, I'd encourage you to simply watch his show without assuming he's evil and taking his claims seriously, instead of going based on what the Daily Wire chooses to highlight.
Excellent analysis. Tucker should have used your framework for the interview and used it as a ‘reveal’ for his viewers. In simple terms, Fuentes is there for attention and believes his own lies. That is where Tucker should have focused.
Tucker didn’t have to do anything different. You saw who Fuentes was & I doubt he picked up followers from that interview. It revealed who he was - somewhat intelligent but mostly immature & obnoxious.
Great assessment. The best way to understand our moral divide (which is upstream of politics) is to understand and take the postmodernists’ arguments seriously. While the French claim to have rejected what their fellow countrymen created, the Americans, have not. And the reason people are duped into following terrible ideas is because they don’t understand nor accept that in the absence of universal moral truth, the postmodernist is right (irony notwithstanding) and each group down to each individual gets to create their own hyperreality that starts with their own moral system.
As a 52 year old black man and married to a white woman for 27 years let me make a quick point. Nick Fuentes is SO FAR off of my radar he might as well not even exist. I am a Christian. I am a Conservative. None of these things is Nick Fuentes. MOVE ON.
Exactly right, Dan.
I see no charisma in Nick Fuentes only bombast. He is not a reasoned servant to truth he is a load mouth provocateur with a historical and politically immature market easily propagandized looking for quick blame.
Your take is true, but MOVE ON is not the correct response, because the Left is not moving on, they're taking the opening Fuentes is giving them and doing real damage to the conservative cause and therefore to our society.
Rufo nailed it. Fuentes is not a Nazi; he's something worse. A chaos agent deliberately wrecking our society at a critical moment in time, simply for his own selfish purposes. We need to expose the game he's playing and neutralize the harm he's enabling the Left to do via his posing.
I can't control what the Left does. They are finucking NUTS and we all know it. I only have so many years to live. I'm not going to waste energy on pieces of s*** that will have no effect on my day to day life.
I'm also 52, Dan. We're just the wrong generation. Fuentes is popular with young men. He doesn't resonate with us. He doesn't WANT to resonate with us. But he does for them.
That said, I think Chris' suggestion of how those of us in our generation should deal with him is correct. Don't engage with his "ideas" (of which he has few as he tends to throw spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks this week) but focus on him as an intellectual fraud.
Young men are attracted to him (and other manosphere types) because they crave meaning and authenticity. But they're not stupid.
actually...it did work...maybe you should move on kerry
@Kerry- clearly Substack allows anyone on its platform. Nice try.
He's mimicking Fuentes' act.
RED ALERT: Kerry Shaw's vocabulary is limited to the f-word. Ignore any posts by him. He might be more effective if he toned it down.
He's a mini-Fuentes. Like a high school sophomore, dropping f-bombs in class to make himself sound serious and rile up the teacher.
@Kerry- Oh! My turn! Ok, Boomer.
He might be more effective if… scratch that. He’ll never be effective.
Fake? Fed? Fool? Which f-word?
Relax. It’s not that important.
Throgmorton - the F word you’re looking for on Christopher’s substack is FINISHED. 🤣
Fake
Unhinged
Crazy
Kook.
Profanity is the sign of a limited vocabulary.
You’re expending too much energy on this. Relax.
Read your Bible Kerry. All of it. Pray over it and ask God for help in understanding it.
Agree. He is a liar for money and power. Conservatism he is not. Spiritual he is not. Love of humanity he is not.
Hey, let’s stop with the profanity, or you’re gone.
Chris, you've got one guy defending himself against a mob of uncritical and mostly thoughtless commenters, and censorship over a seemingly profane acronym is your answer? I don't know this person and I don't particularly like his style, but I love this person as Christ would encourage me to do. I've got a novel idea: How about a commenter engage him a little better argument than the one he's making and you stop acting like your follower's mother? Gee, all of a sudden I feel like Einstein.
Noted.
Mom's calling you down to breakfast, Kerry. Be a good boy, put on some bigtboy clothes and go downstairs.
Do you know that Jesus was a Jew from Israel? You'd better remove your cross. Amen.
Your battle is with a Holy God Kerry. You’re treading on the very wrong side. Don’t yell at me. Be honest and repent. Remove the cross!
I am not sure how the Lord will receive prayers that begin with the word 'Fuck.'
By this standard. giving him an uncritical platform, as Tucker did, is absolutely the wrong approach since it validates him as a real thinker, which he is not.
exactly
I appreciated the Tucker interview so that I could evaluate Fuentes on his ideas rather than listen to overly emotional reactions that has piqued everyone’s curiosity. He had a couple of correct historical takes that were surrounded by immature idiotic beliefs. I can now give a non-emotional straight forward opinion about Fuentes & have zero desire to listen to him as I wouldn’t learn anything from him - I know all I need to know. Sure he’s smart & forceful in his speech but he’s also emotionally stunted & has a chip on his shoulder for anyone who has ever wronged him. Shapiro/daily wire are the ones that made Fuentes as big as he is by popularizing him via the Streisand effect (you learn that from the interview). If you don’t want to make him a big name then stop saying his name.
Or maybe Tucker popularized him?
Not at all - did you listen to the interview? He was on a long interview w/PBD as well. You cant hide in the long interviews & it exposes who he really is - an immature guy w/a big mouth spewing the same ideas over & over. He’s a mouthpiece & nothing more.
I believe that “He who must not be named” is already taken…
Once we give him the uncritical platform, it is imperative that we respond. Silence is acceptance.
As is customary, Rufo hits the nail on the head. Its the simple law of supply and demand: for years, the left has ginned up demand for nazism, with too little supply to satisfy their cravings. Fuentes came to fill in the supply and reap the economic reward for doing so. He is a conman and agitator, nothing more.
great piece chris
i am thoroughly disappointed in tucker, a voice i listened to for years.
he can platform whomever he wants. but he was not critical or even intelligent in his unwatchable interview..
i so thoroughly miss charlie kirk at this time.
Tucker is creating havoc on the right. He’s doing a great job at fracturing the MAGA coalition and the consequences will be dire. And when I see all of the apologists who won’t stand up to him because of the power of his platform and influence it makes me question if I want to be associated with any of the craven cowards. The people with power in MAGA, including the president and his cabinet need to have a talk with him.
“…the president and his cabinet need to have a talk with him.”
Yeah I’m sure THAT would remain quiet…
Fantastic piece, Chris. I agree 100%. He's gaming the system and for all we know, could be by design to divide.
Fuentes is what happens when you have several decades of debased education, demonization of men, and an explosion of always online culture. Carlson is however an evil power monger who is far from an actual Conservative. Both need to be rejected by actual Conservatives.
Mr. Rufo, you have classified Fuentes correctly; he is putting on a show. But Fuentes isn't the issue, the issue is Tucker Carlson. Carlson also puts on a show, but he is systematically rehabilitating hatred of Jews and defending Hitler and other dictators (e.g. Putin and the Iranian mullahs and Maduro) while pretending he's "just asking questions." Carlson too deserves cool analysis, but that includes recognizing and saying boldly that he is doing evil.
He may may receiving a paycheck from someone very interested in dividing the public opinion on republican.He has a price .
Solid point.
Fuentes is disgusting. His parents have to be fully humiliated. At least I hope they are. Yes, I believe he’s so crude and rude for attention and he’s getting it. That doesn’t make him any less disgusting that he’s playing people. What a horrible piece of humanity.
He speaks no truth. He’s a liar and a grandstander and disgusting. He doesn’t help this country one bit. The fact so many people think of him as you do is way more horrifying. You’re just his pawn.
The only mirror he holds up to me is there but for the grace of God go I. If it weren’t for God’s grace I could be just like him.
I honestly don’t want anyone saying “F*** Israel -Amen ✝️🇺🇸” praying for me.
Your caricatures of Fuentes opposition are to say the least just that. The accusations can easily be turned on Fuentes because in the age of the internet he has found a market of unreasonable resentment and self-pity and cashed in on it. Cowardly in their own way his followers seem mostly young and lazy and too ignorant to even know how to enter into the political give and take. I do not see them in the trenches only making strident adolescent screams blaming everyone but themselves and being vile and punk provocative as they do it. That is Fuentes schtick to use a Jewish term.
Nick Fuentes is Dylan Mulvaney in jackboots: Chud Lite.
What about Tucker Carlson? Isn’t his Putin-loving, Churchill-hating all a clickbaiting act? Isn’t he in the same category as Fuentes, just with a bigger audience? What should Conservatives do about him?
This is the most ridiculous commentary I have read this week. Fuentes has been toiling in the Dissident Right field since 2016. When I first met him, then later followed him he had mild views about the Jewish Question and other matters. As he told Carlson he was a Mark Levin listener and a Libertarian back then as most radical young conservatives were. In 2018, things shifted dramatically because an Alt Right and Alt Light phenomenon bubbled up from the grass roots. Fuentes and millions of other conservatives were red-pilled by the information that became available to them because of the internet. The Alt Right exploded and Fuentes jumped in. Over time Fuentes, because he is an exceptional communicator (a prodigy) and has high intelligence and charisma, developed a strong following. He adeptly formed the Groyper club, which might be seen as a nerdier and more Catholic version of McInnes's Proud Boys. They are a refreshing group of young and proud white men who are fighting for western civilization. They rightly see the Establishment Right as a cowardly and comfortable, Zionist, country club that needs to go away. The new breed is shoving them out the door. The Zionists are using their considerable wealth and influence to keep them inside the house. Thus, this is a shoving match between pro-white, Christian, masculinists/nationalists against the Zionist fueled, phony Christian country club slob Republicans. It was never difficult for me to decide which side I am on.
You entered the scene as an anti-woke crusader, which is like swimming in the intermediate section of the pool. We are glad for your inside the Overton Wisdom leadership, but we also know there are many more pro-white martyrs out there like Fuentes and many hundreds of thousands more to the right of him that are on the front lines taking more risk. Fuentes takes more risk than you. I believe you should quietly support him by saying nothing.
I agree. I find this hysteria unbelievable. An interview of Fuentes by Carlson has caused the “Right” to lose their minds. And the Jews (Levin, Shapiro, etc.) are apoplectic. What is actually going in here? The “Left” can and do say whatever they want about anyone and anything, even to the point of encouraging assassinating members of the “Right”, and their party embraces them. We have a conversation between two Conservatives and the party is ready to cancel, silence, obliterate them. I am disgusted. Our Country is on the brink of being taken over by invading Islamists. We should be fighting for our very lives over this. To say nothing of the mortal attacks of big pharma, chemtrails, big tech, food suppliers, corporations of every kind … I can barely keep track. And this interview is what’s set the “Right” establishment on fire? Something is way off here.
May I ask what is "the Jewish Question"? Looking for a specific answer.
Sure. As I understand it, the Jewish Question is: How can Jews, who have small numbers in western populations have so much influence over finance, culture, media, and governments? Are influential Jews, including especially Zionists, and especially in the United States and Europe, using their influence to diminish white people? From the perspective of white advocates, and unaddressed by Establishmentarians like Rufo, the answer to the second half of the question is undoubtedly Yes. Books have been written about the subject. The answer to the first half of the question is more nuanced and there are different opinions. I believe the power is the result of in-group preference, high intelligence, and work ethic. I see these aspects as strengths of the Jewish community. The Groypers and other white advocates believe white people need to mimic the Jewish success formula by organizing and acting confidently to rebuild their nations. This is the conversation focus Rufo does not want to have because it is too hot to handle. Carlson, to his great credit, is having that honest conversation.
Yup, echoes of 1941 when the Germans fired up the ovens.
Basically, it is the question of what role Jews have played in our current political situation. They are very small part of the population but have been extremely influential in national politics, especially the left - a pattern that has repeated in recent history in a other nations. The question is why and what they were trying to accomplish.
Why the overrepresentation? Answers range from they just have a superior culture or they have higher IQs to they are trying to destroy Western Civilization. Obviously, the Nazis thought there was a conspiracy, as many others did at the time. Now, with IQ tests, we can see that Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ than any other group, which might explain the overrepresentation. For those that deny IQ differences, it's a conundrum.
This article essentially strawmans Fuentes by reducing him to his most sensational quotes, which is precisely the strategy his critics use in their attempt to silence him. While I appreciate the Baudrillardian description, I believe Fuentes is sincere and should be taken at face value, and most of the people trying to reduce him to "Holocaust denial" clips have not actually watched his show at any length, and do not fundamentally understand his appeal, and as a result, they will struggle to constrain his influence. I believe he deserves to be heard and taken seriously, and the people who feel entitled to dictate the terms of discourse on the right are the ones whose place in the movement we should be skeptical of.
Curious, what’s the steelman case for Fuentes?
That we do not have meaningful sovereignty in our country as long as this issue is a third-rail. The hostage video that Kevin Roberts was forced to release for the crime of daring to defend someone who had an interview with someone on the naughty list is emblematic of the behavior that alienated people like myself from the left. If we are serious about the claim to be the side of open debate, we need to engage with Nick Fuentes' claims about Israeli, and yes, Jewish, influence on American society, in a way that goes beyond attempting to poison the well with a few selectively-chosen clips. His fundamental point, that he makes again and again, is that this isn't about a clip from 11 years ago, and the outrage over it is insincere. If he were nothing more than some jokes in poor taste years ago, no one would have ever heard of him. People acting in bad faith are choosing to fixate on those clips to avoid addressing his broader point: the fact that this lobby has the power to bring down the Heritage Foundation, the fact that anti-Semitism, and not anti-Americanism, has the power to bring down Ivy League academia, the fact that you can be a gay man with children by surrogacy and belong to the conservative movement, but not critical of this lobby, that is the real conversation.
I appreciate you responding, Chris, and I'll be honest, I really admired your work around Ivy League campus reform. When Claudine Gay was removed, I was genuinely optimistic about the prospect of real change, but watching how the only thing that has meaningfully changed has been the reorientation of the Middle East studies departments towards Zionism, and watching how the Trump administration's campus reform efforts have seemingly focused more on anti-Israeli than anti-American sentiment, I'm disheartened, and admittedly, watching that dynamic play out is part of what has pushed me into Fuentes' camp.
In other words, if the only lever that has the power to meaningfully disrupt Ivy League education in America, even under the Trump administration, is the prospect of campus anti-Semitism, Fuentes is fundamentally right about who controls our country.
Fuentes gave a good take on Mark Levin's reaction to his Tucker Carlson interview the other night, either yesterday or Monday. This is why I support him. I'd encourage you to watch this clip. This is who I see him as, rather than the clip of admittedly bad jokes he made years ago that people keep trying to throw around demanding he be held "accountable" for them, like the woke left at the height of the cancel culture era.
Edit: This is the correct clip https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1985576141428601023
If you want to understand why he's popular, I'd encourage you to simply watch his show without assuming he's evil and taking his claims seriously, instead of going based on what the Daily Wire chooses to highlight.
They do the same with Charlie Kirk.
How is life in your hyper reality, dude?
These are precisely the types of unserious responses I've grown accustomed to getting from the people who claim to be the serious, informed ones.
The only "movement" you are capable of little boy, i9s of the bowels. But don't spew it here.
I'd be anonymous too, if I were making comments like this.
Excellent analysis. Tucker should have used your framework for the interview and used it as a ‘reveal’ for his viewers. In simple terms, Fuentes is there for attention and believes his own lies. That is where Tucker should have focused.
What makes you think Carlson is trying to oppose Fuentes at all?
Exactly, he is not.
Tucker didn’t have to do anything different. You saw who Fuentes was & I doubt he picked up followers from that interview. It revealed who he was - somewhat intelligent but mostly immature & obnoxious.
Great assessment. The best way to understand our moral divide (which is upstream of politics) is to understand and take the postmodernists’ arguments seriously. While the French claim to have rejected what their fellow countrymen created, the Americans, have not. And the reason people are duped into following terrible ideas is because they don’t understand nor accept that in the absence of universal moral truth, the postmodernist is right (irony notwithstanding) and each group down to each individual gets to create their own hyperreality that starts with their own moral system.
Did you enjoy Alice Cooper?