The Persuasion of Jordan Peterson

I spoke with the famed psychologist about the need for conservatives to recapture the public institutions.

I have been engaged in an ongoing debate with Dr. Jordan Peterson about how to restrict DEI programs and racialist ideology in America’s public institutions.

Earlier this month, I joined Dr. Peterson for dinner in Seattle before his live performance at the Paramount Theater. We ordered ribeye steaks—Dr. Peterson is still practicing his beef, salt, and water diet—and had a wide-ranging discussion about politics, culture, law, and psychology. He told stories from his clinical practice and shared his frustrations with the political system, which seems to be a point of both fascination and horror for him. He knows the brutal histories of the Soviet Union, for example, but has a certain hesitation about political action, including the relatively modest reforms I have proposed in public education.

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