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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

This is radical leftist terrorism. The message is clear as day when the bullets say “Kill Donald Trump,” and "Hey fascist - Catch!" Now Kimmel and the left are muddying the waters by trying to "both sides", obscure details on the assassin, and DARVO to make themselves the victims. RICO antifa and the dark money that funds them. For Charlie.

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Anita Graf's avatar

I think Rufo’s hypothesis is more useful. Just making Left v Right leaves out so much valuable information. I’m glad that Rufo is amplifying this narrative instead.

Do these nihilistic weirdos tend to gravitate toward “the left”? To the extent that they gravitate toward any partisanship, yes. And it’s the Dems who ushered in the alphabet/trans psyop madness.

But no doubt it’s just because the left has always been the home of the “creative” types, where rainbow hair and nose rings are accepted as personal expression. It’s also where religion is either watered down or rejected outright. And before it morphs into nihilistic, furry-madness, I’d say it was a legitimate counter to what seemed like stodgy, suited-up, church going cliches.

But I agree with Rufo that this is no longer a partisan rot. It’s gone beyond that. And a lack of any replacement vision takes it even out of the realm of politics (Marxism, say) altogether.

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David Silverberg's avatar

It is not just a trend IMHO unrelated to politics. It is perpetuated and enhanced by hate filled leftist ideology. These kids would not kill if they were not influenced by the left to call everything on the right hate, or nazi or...

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Thomas F Davis's avatar

I think we now have a both / and situation. Re Rufo:

“Both men allegedly acted out their fantasies not to advance a coherent ideology shaped by study or political organizing but to gratify an obscure personal urge.”

So yes, there is no coherent ideology at the bottom. BUT, the Left has decided to make the validation of many “obscure personal urges” into an ideological position that has floated to the surface.

To your final point, I think the opposite is true: dialectic thinking tends to politicize everything.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

True. A consequence of promoting "your truth" instead of "the truth"?

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Thomas F Davis's avatar

Yes, but why? In part I’d argue it’s a lack of humility. Humility reminds us that “my truth” and “the truth” can be different, and causes us to engage in the examinations of ourselves and of the world that should bring the two truths closer.

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BFD25's avatar

If you look at the left's program as a grand permission structure intended to maximize the pathology of narcissists/psychopaths, it all makes sense.

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Michelle Dostie's avatar

Denying objective reality doesn’t create humility because of the definite article only applies to one side.

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David Silverberg's avatar

Or in simpler terms... a lack of civility. 🤷‍♂️

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Thomas F Davis's avatar

Yes, but that’s too simple. WHY is there a lack of civility? That’s not the root cause, it’s just a symptom.

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Shaun's avatar

Do you think satan is civil? he is winning more and more converts every day- whether those converts are aware and willing, or not. The enemy uses any tool he can find...

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Thomas F Davis's avatar

Pretty much agree, though more and more are resisting.

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James Schultz's avatar

Because following orders and giving into demands not involving civility is used to reinforce and justify dialectic thinking?

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Thomas F Davis's avatar

Yes, that’s another piece of the puzzle. But again, there are deeper reasons. IMO one is the need to be good and right, and the most recent example of being good and right was the Civil Rights movement. Some people have a deep need to relive it, and so they recast all differences in those terms. The odd thing is that they forget that MLK and others refused to preach hatred of the Klan and their other opponents. It’s almost as if some kind of socio-political addiction is underway, with activists needing their daily hits of righteousness.

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David Silverberg's avatar

True. 😉

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Hektor Bleriot's avatar

Orwell was once again, prophetic, with his depiction of things like screens in every room broadcasting "Two Minutes of Hate," and focusing the populace on the evil (but imaginary) boogeyman, Emmanuel Goldstein.

The only thing that he got wrong was that we have way more than 2 minutes of hate, and it's all in the name of "love." Trump is as purely Boogeyman as Emmanuel Goldstein ever was.

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CorkyAgain's avatar

They gravitate to the Left because the Left indulges and even celebrates them.

And the Left does that because their core principle, if they have any such thing at all, is a Luciferic "Do what thou wilt" which confuses liberty with libertinism. As Voegelin pointed out years ago, they're gnostics for whom reality is the ultimate oppression.

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CorkyAgain's avatar

... and, as Chris points out in a more recent article, the cynical elements of the Left also view these deviants as manipulable tools who can be incited to political violence such as rioting or assassination. I.e., "particularly useful idiots".

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Jen X's avatar

Well, as a member of the kind of high-level creatives that do most of the work you see in the music, entertainment, and publishing industries - it's not a new thing that kids finding themselves do the hair and edgy thing, but it's not common in successful people who work as creatives for a living. Up until about 2005 there wasn't even anything weird about being a christian and a creative, but sometime after that, creative careers somehow became at least performatively tied to politics - and it is that coupling that is destructive and at fault, not because we used to be the cool people. (There are creatives who don't believe in anything and are vulnerable to trends and manipulation; I'm not saying those don't exist.)

The other truth is that since about 2005 or so, a group of antisocial weirdos have decided to try to redefine the entire social structure of America - from robotic Mark Z to the many other top-level weirdos who made it ok to speak into normal social interaction although they had no part in it. Nerdy leftist teachers on college campuses suddenly became in charge of who was accepted socially, to everyone's detriment. And online, groups of kids who did not have a normal social life suddenly became social gods at their bizarre, obscure hangouts.

This wasn't caused by the left, but a lot are on the left, and a lot of others have purposely leveraged it for their purposes. The sad part is, the kids who are part of this group didn't get better or improve their social skills by participating - they just dragged down everyone else. Mark Zuckerberg didn't become a better or more social person, but he increased the distance between normal people in their social interactions. Now we've moved into a place where being antisocial is seen as a good thing, it appears to evolve out of a normal life, and the whole world is suffering for it, as Rufo says. It will take a lot to undo it.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

A lot of damage has been done by the education system over the years. They gave us ANTIFA and TRANTIFA, now we must prosecute and imprison them as the terrorists they are. https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/cant-claim-being-american-running

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James Schultz's avatar

As someone following more leftist circles and infiltrating them, say, on BlueSky, I can tell my experience is both revealing and confusing. Some people on there already have an account on X, but mostly use both interchangeably, some are commission artists, some of which I've come into contact with and have nothing against them (Maybe they might have something against me instead, but I digress.), but generally speaking, they seem to talk about vaguely associated topics.

For example, I've recently been following the Arcane fanbase on X, not so much on BlueSky. And instead of them asking "If I play League or 2XKO without knowing Arcane, will I not understand them?", they simply go goo-goo ga-ga over the idea of lesbian shipping within the show itself (Caitlyn and Vi being the most prominent example of such) and insist that any deviation from those characters is an affront to character writing, even though Jayce and Viktor have their own arcs and screenwriters are usually expected to conclude all character arcs that they introduce. But, when Arcane season 2 finally closed Jayce and Viktor's arcs, these leftist fans felt like they were ended up being cheated, and more often than not harass writers, directors and what have you... over a meme telling people not to masturbate over Mel, who ended up getting into League, anyway.

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Chris's avatar

I think the cognitive dissonance from the many years of official lies and coverups is driving our society mad. We have transgressed the ancient law-"live not by lies", and that has hollowed out our moral and intellectual integrity.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The answer to your questions may be simple: The majority of American "normie" families are unchurched, and send their kids to public schools. Based on those facts, one might safely assume that the majority of American "normie" mothers are supportive of "trans" mutilations and chemical castrations, because they will defend their chldrens' joy in fantasies to the very end.

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Penguin Mom's avatar

I don't know if it's so much “supportive,” but rather, “too numbed out to do anything about it” with a big dose of “meh, it probably won't happen to me.” Doing something would require examining and changing their own behavior, which is uncomfortable and hard, so, pretending everything is fine ends up being the winning strategy.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Well-stated.

"Being the winning strategy" until, suddenly, it ain't. A few moms have become acquainted with that horrifying reality as of late. My heart really does break for people who are trying to do their best by their kids, but do not understand that a house built on sand will wash away at the first high tide.

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Penguin Mom's avatar

Yes, I have observed this in my own extended family and it is absolutely horrifying. The dysfunction is increasing exponentially in the past couple of generations. Everyone was mostly fine when the culture was sound enough that it was possible to just go along to get along, but that's not the situation anymore yet they're still pretending it is, and then are shocked when the depravity increases (and of course, don't recognize or pretend not to recognize their own.)

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James Schultz's avatar

And if I didn't have my family be aware of the risks, I would've been worse off.

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Gary Edwards's avatar

I have seen much of the opposite, leftist families rear more leftist kids and since the left approves of violence, more violent kids.

But what you say is correct, was ot bad conservative parenting or just the prevalent culture of the youth?

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Penguin Mom's avatar

I guess my assessment is more negative, because many of the "conservative" families I know are only a generation or so behind the leftist families. But I don't think all is hopeless, it's just that a lot of people never think about it, love their own sin, and think as long as they're not the most depraved person they have ever encountered they're doing just fine. Many normie conservatives have never thought seriously about principles or virtues. They're living online, consuming the same products and media and indulging in the same habits as their leftist neighbors.

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James Schultz's avatar

Probably the latter, especially in the case of Tekken trying to make Jin Kazama the bad guy in Tekken 6 by having him start WW3, take over the UN, and basically have a shit-ton of casualties,.... and then in T8, they gloss over the implications in favor of a BS redemption arc, which will definitely prove more harm than good to future generations, as far as the message is concerned.

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James Schultz's avatar

My dad's best friend has a similar dilemma, since his son ended up getting genital mutilation, as well. Said son rejects American ideas and principles in favor of... weeb stuff. Or Steven Universe at one point.

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George Lee's avatar

I like your answer, but on the "unchurched" part, it does depend on the church. Many churches have become social justice warrior factories, and if you wish to include other religions, then the picture gets even worse. A lot of this is because the parents themselves were badly brought up ....

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Dbee's avatar

At a Methodist Church near me, the pastor performs his sermons dressed in drag.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

I thought about the public school connection. However, at least one, Audrey Hale, the trans female identifying as male, had attended the Christian school she shot up.

Concerned people are struggling to find the common thread. If I were an investigator, I'd be looking at the pharma-copia of drugs these people are taking.

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James Schultz's avatar

Either that or their training in their own lives, as opposed to the lives of others they glorify, is so nonexistent that they basically think "I'm unstoppable.", which could prove to be very dangerous.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I am curious as to whether or not Tyler Robinson was medicated.

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john Galt's avatar

The nihilism and anti Americanism in schools breeds these violent youth. Until colleges are forced to change their ways, hire more conservatives, increase credentialing requirements for elementary, middle, and high schools, killers like these will be educated to hate

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James Schultz's avatar

I think it'd be better to use the phrase "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." and like I've done, extensively study these left-leaners and try to at least bargain with them without going as far as to change my philosophy to do it. I've observed this through commission artists that I've talked to without disclosing any politics, just telling them what I think they want them to hear. This gives them a dilemma where they have to change their ways not knowing who's on the other side, without pointing guns at each other. Kapisce?

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Shaun's avatar

You had me with "The answer to your questions may be simple: The majority of American "normie" families are unchurched, and send their kids to public schools."

But, you lost me with "Based on those facts, one might safely assume that the majority of American "normie" mothers are supportive of "trans" mutilations and chemical castrations, because they will defend their chldrens' (sic) joy in fantasies to the very end."

My thought is that many unchurched children sent to public schools simply do not have the spiritual armor to withstand the torrent of evil that satan is throwing at them. They are easy targets for the great deceiver...

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Jeff Naysmith's avatar

I agree my generation has not done well in educating our kids in Christian faith. When their faith is shallow, they are easily deceived even to the point of outright rejecting faith altogether. I also think a significant part of their “distraction” (for lack of a better term) is: smartphones. When they are quite young, we handed devices to them to keep them busy and quiet. When they are teens and 20’s, it becomes near obsession. They are bombarded (even targeted) with all kinds of garbage. I wish there was a simple fix, but that seems unlikely.

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Shaun's avatar

"I wish there was a simple fix, but that seems unlikely."

Simple fix = prayer

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Marlene Barbera's avatar

Quality comment

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Völva's avatar

Roger, it sounds like you, like so many, believe that a moral life and morals transmitted to children, can only happen in religious families. I believe this is an unnecessary mistake to make, and a somewhat alienating one at that.

I do not ascribe to traditional christian beliefs, I have not since I was 11 years old and the whole "story" started looking illogical to me. I do have spiritual beliefs, but they are not tied to a personal, male god etc.

My children do nevertheless know right from wrong, are fair, loving, deep thinkers, and would not for a second be at risk of leftist indoctrination (even though they were exposed to it both in high school and college). Even though their grandfather is a baptist preacher they have never been drawn to church and religion.

There is no need to, in thought, and especially in writing, dismiss non-churchgoing, non-religious people in this way. There are as many paths as there are people, and some of us don't enjoying being told and taught, but discovering for ourselves.

I see the christian story as a concretization of non-physical realities, and respect the need for some to view the non-physical realm through this lens. Perhaps some mutual respect could be afforded those of us who access the metaphysical through other means?

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Roger Beal's avatar

No disrespect is intended. A person approaching their 8th decade of life would be remiss if not having learned a few things about the human condition along the way, and trying to share such that seem both relevant and important.

I'd propose that your children know right from wrong because there is a moral code written on their hearts by an author: the one who designed and created them, the God of the universe. Without such deep, DNA-level (if you wish) encoding, the moral code intrinsic to humanity would have no more power nor meaning than the traffic laws of the civil magistrate.

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Völva's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment, Roger.

While I don’t understand the logic (wouldn’t people who engage in acts that break the 10 commandments also have similar values encoded into their DNA?, if not, why not?) I don’t need to agree or for anyone else to agree with me.

I just wish that traditionally Christian people would understand and accept that we can come to similar conclusions without adhering to the same stories, and that there are many spiritual paths. I don’t believe in “heaven” as a place where one “sits next to god” etc , but I do believe in a non-physical realm where all is one and time does not exist. “Heaven” is to me just a more concretized way to express such a realm (one which you, again, do not have to believe in). But what you, or someone like you, could believe and accept is that we can arrive at the exact same moral attitudes and actions and goals using different narratives. Christians don’t own sole rights to goodness and the habit of so many to speak as if that were the case is unnecessarily disrespectful and alienating. Better to create cohesion and unity through our choice of words and attitudes.

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Jen X's avatar

Yes, very interesting that there is a christian revival happening concurrent with the feeling on the right that everyone has had it. I'm glad people are seeing the truth.

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Mr Black Fox's avatar

Majority of American normie families are atheists who give their children smartphones before age 18. The majority is not raising children with a clear sense of virtue.

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Ragged Clown's avatar

And yet the two murderers that Christopher talks about were from conservative Christian families.

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William Vojtech's avatar

Send a kid to public school where they are indoctrinated 5 days/week, give them internet access where they get fed TikTok all day, and it doesn't matter what kind of home they are from.

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Ragged Clown's avatar

Most people at public school watching TikTok don’t shoot people. Most people with conservative parents don’t shoot people. Or liberal parents.

I think you are extrapolating from too little data.

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William Vojtech's avatar

Most drunk drivers don't kill people. Most get home in one piece. That doesn't mean drinking and driving should be encouraged, or that we should be surprised when a drunk crashes or kills someone.

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Ragged Clown's avatar

I'm not following. What are the habits that you think should be discouraged because they’ll make you kill people. Is it going to public school?

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William Vojtech's avatar

When you are taught that your country is evil, that Western Civilization is evil, and words you don't agree with are violence, you are being given a permission structure to act out in violent ways against "your oppressors."

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James Schultz's avatar

OR the parents don't teach behavioral therapy. The internet is only a vessel of thought, after all.

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Mr Black Fox's avatar

Voting MAGA doesn’t make one a Christian. Many American Christians aren’t doctrinally in line with Christianity. It’s a well-known fact.

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EllisGee's avatar

I vote MAGA, too. And I’m not a Christian!

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Ragged Clown's avatar

Of course not, but Robinson’s parents were Mormon. (I don't know enough about the other guy to comment. Are you saying he was not Christian?)

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Mr Black Fox's avatar

No, Tyler Robinson isn’t a Christian. Murder is forbidden in Christianity. “Thou shall not kill” is one of the ten commandments. It’s a very clear teaching that Tyler and other shooters from “Christian homes” have violated.

Also, LDS/Mormons are not Christians as historically defined since they do not share many doctrines held by Catholics, Protestants and Orthodox Christians.

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Ragged Clown's avatar

The original e-mail I was replying to said that the problem was atheist families. I was just pointing out that his family was Christian. I know that he was not.

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Mr Black Fox's avatar

I stand by the original post. Just because someone says they are Christian doesn’t mean they practice their faith or raise their children in it. Most are functionally atheists.

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EllisGee's avatar

No—I’m saying his religion is irrelevant.

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George Lee's avatar

They do rebel .... because of external factors beyond the parents' control (like first year of college).

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Ragged Clown's avatar

Isn’t that true of nearly everyone though, George. Most of them don’t shoot people though. Most of them end up with a 9-5 job, a wife and children like the rest of us.

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paula yokoyama's avatar

not true

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Myrick Crampton's avatar

I was at a folk festival over the weekend and a hip hop group had a small audience that was into the performance. In the first song, they had many imitating the chanters when they raised their fist as a mark of resistance. Seeing otherwise meek, petit young women, seemingly, unknowingly copying the black power salute as a cosplay of resistance was disturbing. The whole performance had an undertone of normalized violence.

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Joe's avatar

Mass hypnotism is real.

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Alexander Ignatiev's avatar

Or herd mentality

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Or just a bunch of dumb ass democrat&republican PARTY members.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

I've seen your comments sprinkled through this forum pushing both side-ism. Each party has it's own problems.

Democrats are totalitarian, and will lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want. They rationalize their manipulation of the public by convincing themselves it's all for the greater good. The divide between party officials and people identifying as Democrats is mainly through a vocal, extreme, minority of members who think their party doesn't go far enough.

Full disclosure - I always vote Republican. Republican party officials say all the right things and put on a good show for the public in hearings and such, but out of view of the cameras almost every Republican elected official will cut a deal with their fellow Uni-party members identifying as Democrats. All officials of both parties look out for their own self-interest first.

The violence in America is NOT a both-sides problem. I've seen plenty of factoids ginned up showing conservatives are violent too. It's comical, they always put the brain-fried-on-drugs pedophile who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer on the conservative side.

Leftists don't hold back in calling for and celebrating the deaths of their adversaries. I rarely if ever see conservatives do that.

It's not a both sides problem. So knock it off, Lebo.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Your bias won't allow you to understand what I am saying. The problem IS the republican&democrat PARTY or if you prefer, the problem IS the democrat&republican PARTY, because they control everything in America, including all the problems "We the American People" have.

All you are saying "Evil incarnate," is my party is the good party and the other party is the bad party and if you don't like my party I hate you, which is what all republican&democrat faithful PARTY members says.

I am an American I am not a member of the democrat&republican PARTY.

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Evil Incarnate's avatar

You're someone who thinks you know everything and you don't know me at all.

My party believes in the right things, and the party leaders say the do. The officials in my party often fall short, they lack follow-through, and they'll sell out the people who vote for them if no one is looking.

I can put myself in a Democrat's shoes, and can easily see how they believe their party is the good party. I have many relatives who are progressives, and I don't hate them the way you're saying, nor do I hate progressives in general. I think they have good hearts, but are misguided.

Probably the biggest example of where we are apart has to do with racial issues. They think the poverty and high level of incarceration among black people is because of the color of their skin. I'll agree, that's been a problem historically. I see their problems today as children raised in homes with no fathers. I don't care what color they are, a child born in a home with no father has the odds against him/her for a happy, successful, productive life.

The Democrat party is frenemies. of black people. If a black person is killed by a police officer, Democrats manipulate them into thinking the police are actively hunting down young black males and killing a few thousand per year. The number of unjustified* shooting of black people by police is less than a couple of dozen per year. That's too many. But don't exaggerate it way beyond what it is.

If Democrats truly cared about black people, they'd ensure they get a good education. They spend a lot of $ on education, which benefits their teachers union supporters, but not their voters. Large Democrat-run cities like Chicago, Baltimore, and others have dozens of schools WHERE NOT A SINGLE STUDENT CAN READ AND DO ARITHMETIC AT GRADE LEVEL. You tell me, Lebo. Are they taking care of their voters? Are they the good guys?

I don't spare Republican elected officials in my blame for these problems. They're not as complicit as Democrats. It seems they've informally accepted/agreed that black people are the Democrats' constituency, and they ignore the problems of black people when they should have a voice. It would benefit them politically, but they don't do it b/c they're cowards.

I can't agree with you both parties are the same. If you're saying they're both awful, each in its own way, we can find common ground.

*If a police officer kills someone who is armed, it's highly likely but not certain the shooting was justified. It's not a perfect indicator, but it's a good one, and the numbers are far less than public perception. I've run the numbers- as I said, it's less than a couple dozen/year.

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

It's the same performative radicalism we saw among adolescents in the late '60s. There was a similar contingent in pop culture egging them on then, too. It led to enough pressure for the Congress to make a huge blunder and grant the vote to 18-year-olds in 1971. The argument that someone old enough to be drafted should have the vote is bollocks, especially since there was always the probability that the draft would end soon, as it did in 1973, only two years later.

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EllisGee's avatar

The reason that men were drafted at 18 is that the Army considered them more malleable at that age. This is precisely why 18 year olds shouldn’t have been granted the right to vote.

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WilliamD's avatar

They should never have been subject to the draft neither.

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EllisGee's avatar

That’s a non-sequiter. I was talking about malleability.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

A lot of it is cosplay and the line between reality and fantasy is becoming increasingly blurred for some.

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Steve G's avatar

These individuals have always been around. In the past they were lonely souls who fantasized in basements. Today, the “gift” of the internet has allowed these people to communicate with each other. They strengthen their fantasies collectively and by knowing others are plagued by similar fantasies grow bolder.

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Joe Mizereck's avatar

So, instead of arriving at common sense they arrive at common non-sense. How do we change this?

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kittynana's avatar

@Joe- go after the irrevocably broken mental health system.

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EllisGee's avatar

I don’t know. Perhaps by keeping children off of social media?

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Stop voting for the cause of ALL our problems in America...the republican&democrat PARTY, duh!

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EllisGee's avatar

If you don’t vote for the Republicrats, who’s left? CPUSA? The Democratic Socialists?

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Marvin's avatar

Pretty deflationary take.

If you (1) affirm mental illness and (2) say not affirming it is "trans genocide", then (3) the sociopathic fragment of the transgender crowd will want to kill you. That's 3 non-normie factors more than zero.

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Charles N. Steele's avatar

These subcultures are Satanic. They are also sponsored and nurtured by radical leftists, including those who finance and run the foundations that support antifa, BLM, et al. There's a spiritual dimension to freedom vs. Marxism, including the cultural Marxism of the transgenderist cult.

I was an atheist most of my life, and not predisposed to see things this way, but it's not a matter of "where there's smoke, there's fire." It's "where there's flames, there's fire."

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Mark Bigley's avatar

Remember that Marxism supports any actions that weaken the psychological or social system fabrics, even the ideology that comes through school systems and now even infiltrated church systems. It puts the human mind and spirit in an environment of a slow rotting process. Parents then don’t know what to do even if they are aware enough to notice.

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Dan’l's avatar

I love ya, man, buUut… calling these freaks of nature “radical normie terrorists” is ridiculous.

Coming from a normal background doesn’t mean you’re destined to be normal, and radicalization is sorta self-explanatory…

It used to be in the dark corners of the ‘net, that those seeking to warp the minds of the weak would hide… now, they’re not just on TikTok: they’re everywhere, including here.

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William Vojtech's avatar

Public schools and the internet. That's the answer. And the media calling everyone Nazis.

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Alexander Ignatiev's avatar

Benjamin Spock could be the reason:

"In the 1960s and 1970s, Spock was also blamed for the disorderliness of young people, many of whose parents had been devotees of Baby and Child Care.[13] Vice President Spiro Agnew also blamed Spock for "permissiveness".[13][50] These allegations were enthusiastically embraced by conservative adults, who viewed the rebellious youth of that era with disapproval, referring to them as "the Spock generation""

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Roger Beal's avatar

I agree that my generation (born 1947 - 1955) were raised by Spockian standards: Spoil the rod and spare the child. But an informal survey recently conducted of late 20s - early 30s y/o moms revealed that not one of them ever heard of Dr. Benjamin Spock.

The point? The Spock effect is well in the rearview mirror today. Something else has taken its place - and I believe we can easily guess what that is.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

My mom was one of them…and spare the rod she did NOT.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

No mom in my military neighborhood, I grew up on Army bases around the world, spared the rod even if you weren't her child, they all had this unspoken agreement...no child's behind is left unpunished.

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kittynana's avatar

@Nard- or the wooden spoon. Or the flyswatter. Or....

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Alexander Ignatiev's avatar

Well, moms might not ever heard of Benjamin Spock but their teachers could have. After all, his book was one of thr best selling books of the 20th century: "selling 500,000 copies in the six months after its initial publication and 50 million by the time of Spock's death in 1998"

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

The republican&democrat PARTY?

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kittynana's avatar

@Lebo- you keep spewing that but you offer no alternatives.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Yes kittynana, I keep telling you every time you say that to read my book and you will read about the alternatives to the insanity of the republican&democrat PARTY.

"The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

Thank you kittynana for allowing me to plug my book, "The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon, by me Lebo Von Lo~Debar.

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"The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon, by me Lebo Von Lo~Debar.

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James Mead's avatar

Kirk's murderer came from a 2 parent household. I wonder how many of these criminals came from one parent households

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EllisGee's avatar

So, what are you saying? Ban 2-parent households?

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James Mead's avatar

No, not at all. It just seems children raised by 1 parent seem to have more trouble and/or problems

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EllisGee's avatar

You’re right. At risk of sounding like what used to be called a male chauvinist pig, girls sre trained from the get-go to accept male aggression. This aggression is physical, emotional, and social. Small wonder women have difficulty single parenting their sons!

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James Mead's avatar

Thank you for your reply. It’s nice to discuss things we have questions about. It’s still easier over a cup of coffee

Have a nice day EllisGee

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Douglas Cone's avatar

While your thrust is different, you and Charlie Kirk are of the same high caliber when it comes to engaging the culture. I pray that God will keep His hand of protection upon you and your family in the ever darkening times we live in. Thanks for the work you do.

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T247's avatar

Pumping massive amounts of hormones of the opposite sex into young people going through puberty, frequently combined with mental illness and/or autism appears to be a recipe for disaster. Additionally, there is an online echo chamber, populated by anonymous and unaccountable people, many who are adults masquerading as kids. Many Antifa are trans and we’re seeing a number of shooters that are trans, disproportionate to their numbers in society. Have you seen videos of the men competing in women’s sports? Their misogyny is off the charts. I would love to see a real study done looking into the effects of the transing of kids. I suspect the results would make the Tuskegee crime pale in comparison.

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Phoenix's avatar

I also think it speaks to the laziness of modern middle American parents. No- your teenager doesn’t need a smart phone at age 14 just because you both work. There are healthier alternatives. These kids are often latchkey kids who are given immense freedoms to explore degenerate and dangerous ideologies. Lack of faith and spirituality is the final nail in the coffin. When teaching the teen commandments is forbidden, these kids don’t have an internal voice declaring “thou shall not kill.” Also, these are broken individuals, who are pumped full of chemicals and drugs, which we really don’t know how they are affected in the short term, let alone long term. It’s a recipe for disaster.

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Bryn Cannon's avatar

Yes. Happy, well-connected children who know they are loved are not vulnerable to radicalization. It is highly likely that the killer experienced trauma during childhood, and either one or both parents were the culprit or they were too wrapped up in their own pursuits to notice something was wrong or take the time to figure it out.

Even when parents fail, though, and we so often do, being connected to the God who made us and loves us is more than enough. I’m talking here about the Creator of the universe, not the LDS god of this world who supposedly once was a man. This difference is everything.

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Graham Cunningham's avatar

There is, of course, no simple answer to crazily violent individuals....they've always been around and always will be no matter how well or badly they were brought up.

But we do need to recognise that in recent decades Western liberal 'individualism' has spun out of control....and into a malign 'what-about-me culture of narcissism. The number of people who have been infected by this run into the millions " Once you are encouraged to view yourself as axiomatically personally blameless, the next step is to look for someone (or something) else to blame for each and every one of your discontents. Re-cast your wonderful self as a 'victim'. Ooh that feels nice!.....now where's my therapist? And who needs to be cancelled? People drunk on their own virtuous self esteem don't like to give 'free speech' to anyone who might challenge them." https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/has-liberalisms-flame-burned-too

It is a mercy then that only a tiny minority of these narcissistic personality types resort to guns to 'express' their sense of 'victimhood'.

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