This is radical leftist terrorism. The message is clear as day when the bullets say “Kill Donald Trump,” and "Hey fascist - Catch!" Now Kimmel and the left are muddying the waters by trying to "both sides", obscure details on the assassin, and DARVO to make themselves the victims. RICO antifa and the dark money that funds them. For Charlie.
I think Rufo’s hypothesis is more useful. Just making Left v Right leaves out so much valuable information. I’m glad that Rufo is amplifying this narrative instead.
Do these nihilistic weirdos tend to gravitate toward “the left”? To the extent that they gravitate toward any partisanship, yes. And it’s the Dems who ushered in the alphabet/trans psyop madness.
But no doubt it’s just because the left has always been the home of the “creative” types, where rainbow hair and nose rings are accepted as personal expression. It’s also where religion is either watered down or rejected outright. And before it morphs into nihilistic, furry-madness, I’d say it was a legitimate counter to what seemed like stodgy, suited-up, church going cliches.
But I agree with Rufo that this is no longer a partisan rot. It’s gone beyond that. And a lack of any replacement vision takes it even out of the realm of politics (Marxism, say) altogether.
It is not just a trend IMHO unrelated to politics. It is perpetuated and enhanced by hate filled leftist ideology. These kids would not kill if they were not influenced by the left to call everything on the right hate, or nazi or...
I think we now have a both / and situation. Re Rufo:
“Both men allegedly acted out their fantasies not to advance a coherent ideology shaped by study or political organizing but to gratify an obscure personal urge.”
So yes, there is no coherent ideology at the bottom. BUT, the Left has decided to make the validation of “obscure personal urges” into an ideological position that has floated to the surface.
To your final point, I think the opposite is true: dialectic thinking tends to politicize everything.
The answer to your questions may be simple: The majority of American "normie" families are unchurched, and send their kids to public schools. Based on those facts, one might safely assume that the majority of American "normie" mothers are supportive of "trans" mutilations and chemical castrations, because they will defend their chldrens' joy in fantasies to the very end.
I don't know if it's so much “supportive,” but rather, “too numbed out to do anything about it” with a big dose of “meh, it probably won't happen to me.” Doing something would require examining and changing their own behavior, which is uncomfortable and hard, so, pretending everything is fine ends up being the winning strategy.
"Being the winning strategy" until, suddenly, it ain't. A few moms have become acquainted with that horrifying reality as of late. My heart really does break for people who are trying to do their best by their kids, but do not understand that a house built on sand will wash away at the first high tide.
Yes, I have observed this in my own extended family and it is absolutely horrifying. The dysfunction is increasing exponentially in the past couple of generations. Everyone was mostly fine when the culture was sound enough that it was possible to just go along to get along, but that's not the situation anymore yet they're still pretending it is, and then are shocked when the depravity increases (and of course, don't recognize or pretend not to recognize their own.)
I guess my assessment is more negative, because many of the "conservative" families I know are only a generation or so behind the leftist families. But I don't think all is hopeless, it's just that a lot of people never think about it, love their own sin, and think as long as they're not the most depraved person they have ever encountered they're doing just fine. Many normie conservatives have never thought seriously about principles or virtues. They're living online, consuming the same products and media and indulging in the same habits as their leftist neighbors.
I like your answer, but on the "unchurched" part, it does depend on the church. Many churches have become social justice warrior factories, and if you wish to include other religions, then the picture gets even worse. A lot of this is because the parents themselves were badly brought up ....
The nihilism and anti Americanism in schools breeds these violent youth. Until colleges are forced to change their ways, hire more conservatives, increase credentialing requirements for elementary, middle, and high schools, killers like these will be educated to hate
I thought about the public school connection. However, at least one, Audrey Hale, the trans female identifying as male, had attended the Christian school she shot up.
Concerned people are struggling to find the common thread. If I were an investigator, I'd be looking at the pharma-copia of drugs these people are taking.
Majority of American normie families are atheists who give their children smartphones before age 18. The majority is not raising children with a clear sense of virtue.
Send a kid to public school where they are indoctrinated 5 days/week, give them internet access where they get fed TikTok all day, and it doesn't matter what kind of home they are from.
Most drunk drivers don't kill people. Most get home in one piece. That doesn't mean drinking and driving should be encouraged, or that we should be surprised when a drunk crashes or kills someone.
Isn’t that true of nearly everyone though, George. Most of them don’t shoot people though. Most of them end up with a 9-5 job, a wife and children like the rest of us.
I was at a folk festival over the weekend and a hip hop group had a small audience that was into the performance. In the first song, they had many imitating the chanters when they raised their fist as a mark of resistance. Seeing otherwise meek, petit young women, seemingly, unknowingly copying the black power salute as a cosplay of resistance was disturbing. The whole performance had an undertone of normalized violence.
I've seen your comments sprinkled through this forum pushing both side-ism. Each party has it's own problems.
Democrats are totalitarian, and will lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want. They rationalize their manipulation of the public by convincing themselves it's all for the greater good. The divide between party officials and people identifying as Democrats is mainly through a vocal, extreme, minority of members who think their party doesn't go far enough.
Full disclosure - I always vote Republican. Republican party officials say all the right things and put on a good show for the public in hearings and such, but out of view of the cameras almost every Republican elected official will cut a deal with their fellow Uni-party members identifying as Democrats. All officials of both parties look out for their own self-interest first.
The violence in America is NOT a both-sides problem. I've seen plenty of factoids ginned up showing conservatives are violent too. It's comical, they always put the brain-fried-on-drugs pedophile who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer on the conservative side.
Leftists don't hold back in calling for and celebrating the deaths of their adversaries. I rarely if ever see conservatives do that.
It's not a both sides problem. So knock it off, Lebo.
Your bias won't allow you to understand what I am saying. The problem IS the republican&democrat PARTY or if you prefer, the problem IS the democrat&republican PARTY, because they control everything in America, including all the problems "We the American People" have.
All you are saying "Evil incarnate," is my party is the good party and the other party is the bad party and if you don't like my party I hate you, which is what all republican&democrat faithful PARTY members says.
I am an American I am not a member of the democrat&republican PARTY.
You're someone who thinks you know everything and you don't know me at all.
My party believes in the right things, and the party leaders say the do. The officials in my party often fall short, they lack follow-through, and they'll sell out the people who vote for them if no one is looking.
I can put myself in a Democrat's shoes, and can easily see how they believe their party is the good party. I have many relatives who are progressives, and I don't hate them the way you're saying, nor do I hate progressives in general. I think they have good hearts, but are misguided.
Probably the biggest example of where we are apart has to do with racial issues. They think the poverty and high level of incarceration among black people is because of the color of their skin. I'll agree, that's been a problem historically. I see their problems today as children raised in homes with no fathers. I don't care what color they are, a child born in a home with no father has the odds against him/her for a happy, successful, productive life.
The Democrat party is frenemies. of black people. If a black person is killed by a police officer, Democrats manipulate them into thinking the police are actively hunting down young black males and killing a few thousand per year. The number of unjustified* shooting of black people by police is less than a couple of dozen per year. That's too many. But don't exaggerate it way beyond what it is.
If Democrats truly cared about black people, they'd ensure they get a good education. They spend a lot of $ on education, which benefits their teachers union supporters, but not their voters. Large Democrat-run cities like Chicago, Baltimore, and others have dozens of schools WHERE NOT A SINGLE STUDENT CAN READ AND DO ARITHMETIC AT GRADE LEVEL. You tell me, Lebo. Are they taking care of their voters? Are they the good guys?
I don't spare Republican elected officials in my blame for these problems. They're not as complicit as Democrats. It seems they've informally accepted/agreed that black people are the Democrats' constituency, and they ignore the problems of black people when they should have a voice. It would benefit them politically, but they don't do it b/c they're cowards.
I can't agree with you both parties are the same. If you're saying they're both awful, each in its own way, we can find common ground.
*If a police officer kills someone who is armed, it's highly likely but not certain the shooting was justified. It's not a perfect indicator, but it's a good one, and the numbers are far less than public perception. I've run the numbers- as I said, it's less than a couple dozen/year.
It's the same performative radicalism we saw among adolescents in the late '60s. There was a similar contingent in pop culture egging them on then, too. It led to enough pressure for the Congress to make a huge blunder and grant the vote to 18-year-olds in 1971. The argument that someone old enough to be drafted should have the vote is bollocks, especially since there was always the probability that the draft would end soon, as it did in 1973, only two years later.
The reason that men were drafted at 18 is that the Army considered them more malleable at that age. This is precisely why 18 year olds shouldn’t have been granted the right to vote.
These individuals have always been around. In the past they were lonely souls who fantasized in basements. Today, the “gift” of the internet has allowed these people to communicate with each other. They strengthen their fantasies collectively and by knowing others are plagued by similar fantasies grow bolder.
If you (1) affirm mental illness and (2) say not affirming it is "trans genocide", then (3) the sociopathic fragment of the transgender crowd will want to kill you. That's 3 non-normie factors more than zero.
These subcultures are Satanic. They are also sponsored and nurtured by radical leftists, including those who finance and run the foundations that support antifa, BLM, et al. There's a spiritual dimension to freedom vs. Marxism, including the cultural Marxism of the transgenderist cult.
I was an atheist most of my life, and not predisposed to see things this way, but it's not a matter of "where there's smoke, there's fire." It's "where there's flames, there's fire."
Remember that Marxism supports any actions that weaken the psychological or social system fabrics, even the ideology that comes through school systems and now even infiltrated church systems. It puts the human mind and spirit in an environment of a slow rotting process. Parents then don’t know what to do even if they are aware enough to notice.
I love ya, man, buUut… calling these freaks of nature “radical normie terrorists” is ridiculous.
Coming from a normal background doesn’t mean you’re destined to be normal, and radicalization is sorta self-explanatory…
It used to be in the dark corners of the ‘net, that those seeking to warp the minds of the weak would hide… now, they’re not just on TikTok: they’re everywhere, including here.
"In the 1960s and 1970s, Spock was also blamed for the disorderliness of young people, many of whose parents had been devotees of Baby and Child Care.[13] Vice President Spiro Agnew also blamed Spock for "permissiveness".[13][50] These allegations were enthusiastically embraced by conservative adults, who viewed the rebellious youth of that era with disapproval, referring to them as "the Spock generation""
I agree that my generation (born 1947 - 1955) were raised by Spockian standards: Spoil the rod and spare the child. But an informal survey recently conducted of late 20s - early 30s y/o moms revealed that not one of them ever heard of Dr. Benjamin Spock.
The point? The Spock effect is well in the rearview mirror today. Something else has taken its place - and I believe we can easily guess what that is.
No mom in my military neighborhood, I grew up on Army bases around the world, spared the rod even if you weren't her child, they all had this unspoken agreement...no child's behind is left unpunished.
Well, moms might not ever heard of Benjamin Spock but their teachers could have. After all, his book was one of thr best selling books of the 20th century: "selling 500,000 copies in the six months after its initial publication and 50 million by the time of Spock's death in 1998"
Yes kittynana, I keep telling you every time you say that to read my book and you will read about the alternatives to the insanity of the republican&democrat PARTY.
"The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon.
Thank you kittynana for allowing me to plug my book, "The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon, by me Lebo Von Lo~Debar.
When talking to some leftists, I suspect moderate ones but highly informed, they are ok with critical theory being taught all across America. They don’t acknowledge the effect it’s having, and somehow do not want to see how it is an existential threat. They defend it like it’s any other liberal idea that should not be suppressed, while acknowledging conservative ideas shouldn’t be suppressed either. However, when an enemy invades your country you fight them. Critical theory is an enemy, and therefore free speech should not apply. What am I missing?
It's true.. critical theory eventually results at a minimum numbing people to the idea that the country is irredeemable. When every fault in history or status is made out to be uniquely American and exaggerated, the "Burn it down!" phrase becomes more acceptable. I'm starting to think there really is a lot of U.S. citizens out there who don't want this country to exist anymore. Wild. You'd think there'd be an iota of appreciation for what it affords them. They have no idea. I think this solely rests on the college institutions for fostering this radicalism, with the biased media offering a helping hand.
A related question, should an illiberal ideology like wokeism and critical theory be afforded the same freedom of speech as a liberal ideology? Because illiberal ideologies do not ‘return the favor’
Yes…but they should NOT be adopted as absolute truths by our education and policy institutions. Mental illness shouldn’t be affirmed, and racism shouldn’t be an appropriate state or federal policy.
I mostly agree, but by affording illiberal ideologies the freedom of speech rights that they don't uphold themselves, kind of gives them a big advantage. I think any illiberal ideology has no place in a classically liberal civilization, and should be outlawed. Otherwise, there is no defense mechanism - which is how we got here. (At this point it’s virtually impossible to do anything about the university system imo)
While your thrust is different, you and Charlie Kirk are of the same high caliber when it comes to engaging the culture. I pray that God will keep His hand of protection upon you and your family in the ever darkening times we live in. Thanks for the work you do.
There is, of course, no simple answer to crazily violent individuals....they've always been around and always will be no matter how well or badly they were brought up.
But we do need to recognise that in recent decades Western liberal 'individualism' has spun out of control....and into a malign 'what-about-me culture of narcissism. The number of people who have been infected by this run into the millions " Once you are encouraged to view yourself as axiomatically personally blameless, the next step is to look for someone (or something) else to blame for each and every one of your discontents. Re-cast your wonderful self as a 'victim'. Ooh that feels nice!.....now where's my therapist? And who needs to be cancelled? People drunk on their own virtuous self esteem don't like to give 'free speech' to anyone who might challenge them." https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/has-liberalisms-flame-burned-too
It is a mercy then that only a tiny minority of these narcissistic personality types resort to guns to 'express' their sense of 'victimhood'.
This is radical leftist terrorism. The message is clear as day when the bullets say “Kill Donald Trump,” and "Hey fascist - Catch!" Now Kimmel and the left are muddying the waters by trying to "both sides", obscure details on the assassin, and DARVO to make themselves the victims. RICO antifa and the dark money that funds them. For Charlie.
I think Rufo’s hypothesis is more useful. Just making Left v Right leaves out so much valuable information. I’m glad that Rufo is amplifying this narrative instead.
Do these nihilistic weirdos tend to gravitate toward “the left”? To the extent that they gravitate toward any partisanship, yes. And it’s the Dems who ushered in the alphabet/trans psyop madness.
But no doubt it’s just because the left has always been the home of the “creative” types, where rainbow hair and nose rings are accepted as personal expression. It’s also where religion is either watered down or rejected outright. And before it morphs into nihilistic, furry-madness, I’d say it was a legitimate counter to what seemed like stodgy, suited-up, church going cliches.
But I agree with Rufo that this is no longer a partisan rot. It’s gone beyond that. And a lack of any replacement vision takes it even out of the realm of politics (Marxism, say) altogether.
It is not just a trend IMHO unrelated to politics. It is perpetuated and enhanced by hate filled leftist ideology. These kids would not kill if they were not influenced by the left to call everything on the right hate, or nazi or...
I think we now have a both / and situation. Re Rufo:
“Both men allegedly acted out their fantasies not to advance a coherent ideology shaped by study or political organizing but to gratify an obscure personal urge.”
So yes, there is no coherent ideology at the bottom. BUT, the Left has decided to make the validation of “obscure personal urges” into an ideological position that has floated to the surface.
To your final point, I think the opposite is true: dialectic thinking tends to politicize everything.
The answer to your questions may be simple: The majority of American "normie" families are unchurched, and send their kids to public schools. Based on those facts, one might safely assume that the majority of American "normie" mothers are supportive of "trans" mutilations and chemical castrations, because they will defend their chldrens' joy in fantasies to the very end.
I don't know if it's so much “supportive,” but rather, “too numbed out to do anything about it” with a big dose of “meh, it probably won't happen to me.” Doing something would require examining and changing their own behavior, which is uncomfortable and hard, so, pretending everything is fine ends up being the winning strategy.
Well-stated.
"Being the winning strategy" until, suddenly, it ain't. A few moms have become acquainted with that horrifying reality as of late. My heart really does break for people who are trying to do their best by their kids, but do not understand that a house built on sand will wash away at the first high tide.
Yes, I have observed this in my own extended family and it is absolutely horrifying. The dysfunction is increasing exponentially in the past couple of generations. Everyone was mostly fine when the culture was sound enough that it was possible to just go along to get along, but that's not the situation anymore yet they're still pretending it is, and then are shocked when the depravity increases (and of course, don't recognize or pretend not to recognize their own.)
I have seen much of the opposite, leftist families rear more leftist kids and since the left approves of violence, more violent kids.
But what you say is correct, was ot bad conservative parenting or just the prevalent culture of the youth?
I guess my assessment is more negative, because many of the "conservative" families I know are only a generation or so behind the leftist families. But I don't think all is hopeless, it's just that a lot of people never think about it, love their own sin, and think as long as they're not the most depraved person they have ever encountered they're doing just fine. Many normie conservatives have never thought seriously about principles or virtues. They're living online, consuming the same products and media and indulging in the same habits as their leftist neighbors.
I like your answer, but on the "unchurched" part, it does depend on the church. Many churches have become social justice warrior factories, and if you wish to include other religions, then the picture gets even worse. A lot of this is because the parents themselves were badly brought up ....
The nihilism and anti Americanism in schools breeds these violent youth. Until colleges are forced to change their ways, hire more conservatives, increase credentialing requirements for elementary, middle, and high schools, killers like these will be educated to hate
I thought about the public school connection. However, at least one, Audrey Hale, the trans female identifying as male, had attended the Christian school she shot up.
Concerned people are struggling to find the common thread. If I were an investigator, I'd be looking at the pharma-copia of drugs these people are taking.
Majority of American normie families are atheists who give their children smartphones before age 18. The majority is not raising children with a clear sense of virtue.
And yet the two murderers that Christopher talks about were from conservative Christian families.
Send a kid to public school where they are indoctrinated 5 days/week, give them internet access where they get fed TikTok all day, and it doesn't matter what kind of home they are from.
Most people at public school watching TikTok don’t shoot people. Most people with conservative parents don’t shoot people. Or liberal parents.
I think you are extrapolating from too little data.
Most drunk drivers don't kill people. Most get home in one piece. That doesn't mean drinking and driving should be encouraged, or that we should be surprised when a drunk crashes or kills someone.
I'm not following. What are the habits that you think should be discouraged because they’ll make you kill people. Is it going to public school?
They do rebel .... because of external factors beyond the parents' control (like first year of college).
Voting MAGA doesn’t make one a Christian. Many American Christians aren’t doctrinally in line with Christianity. It’s a well-known fact.
Of course not, but Robinson’s parents were Mormon. (I don't know enough about the other guy to comment. Are you saying he was not Christian?)
I vote MAGA, too. And I’m not a Christian!
Isn’t that true of nearly everyone though, George. Most of them don’t shoot people though. Most of them end up with a 9-5 job, a wife and children like the rest of us.
not true
I was at a folk festival over the weekend and a hip hop group had a small audience that was into the performance. In the first song, they had many imitating the chanters when they raised their fist as a mark of resistance. Seeing otherwise meek, petit young women, seemingly, unknowingly copying the black power salute as a cosplay of resistance was disturbing. The whole performance had an undertone of normalized violence.
Mass hypnotism is real.
Or herd mentality
Or just a bunch of dumb ass democrat&republican PARTY members.
I've seen your comments sprinkled through this forum pushing both side-ism. Each party has it's own problems.
Democrats are totalitarian, and will lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want. They rationalize their manipulation of the public by convincing themselves it's all for the greater good. The divide between party officials and people identifying as Democrats is mainly through a vocal, extreme, minority of members who think their party doesn't go far enough.
Full disclosure - I always vote Republican. Republican party officials say all the right things and put on a good show for the public in hearings and such, but out of view of the cameras almost every Republican elected official will cut a deal with their fellow Uni-party members identifying as Democrats. All officials of both parties look out for their own self-interest first.
The violence in America is NOT a both-sides problem. I've seen plenty of factoids ginned up showing conservatives are violent too. It's comical, they always put the brain-fried-on-drugs pedophile who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer on the conservative side.
Leftists don't hold back in calling for and celebrating the deaths of their adversaries. I rarely if ever see conservatives do that.
It's not a both sides problem. So knock it off, Lebo.
Your bias won't allow you to understand what I am saying. The problem IS the republican&democrat PARTY or if you prefer, the problem IS the democrat&republican PARTY, because they control everything in America, including all the problems "We the American People" have.
All you are saying "Evil incarnate," is my party is the good party and the other party is the bad party and if you don't like my party I hate you, which is what all republican&democrat faithful PARTY members says.
I am an American I am not a member of the democrat&republican PARTY.
You're someone who thinks you know everything and you don't know me at all.
My party believes in the right things, and the party leaders say the do. The officials in my party often fall short, they lack follow-through, and they'll sell out the people who vote for them if no one is looking.
I can put myself in a Democrat's shoes, and can easily see how they believe their party is the good party. I have many relatives who are progressives, and I don't hate them the way you're saying, nor do I hate progressives in general. I think they have good hearts, but are misguided.
Probably the biggest example of where we are apart has to do with racial issues. They think the poverty and high level of incarceration among black people is because of the color of their skin. I'll agree, that's been a problem historically. I see their problems today as children raised in homes with no fathers. I don't care what color they are, a child born in a home with no father has the odds against him/her for a happy, successful, productive life.
The Democrat party is frenemies. of black people. If a black person is killed by a police officer, Democrats manipulate them into thinking the police are actively hunting down young black males and killing a few thousand per year. The number of unjustified* shooting of black people by police is less than a couple of dozen per year. That's too many. But don't exaggerate it way beyond what it is.
If Democrats truly cared about black people, they'd ensure they get a good education. They spend a lot of $ on education, which benefits their teachers union supporters, but not their voters. Large Democrat-run cities like Chicago, Baltimore, and others have dozens of schools WHERE NOT A SINGLE STUDENT CAN READ AND DO ARITHMETIC AT GRADE LEVEL. You tell me, Lebo. Are they taking care of their voters? Are they the good guys?
I don't spare Republican elected officials in my blame for these problems. They're not as complicit as Democrats. It seems they've informally accepted/agreed that black people are the Democrats' constituency, and they ignore the problems of black people when they should have a voice. It would benefit them politically, but they don't do it b/c they're cowards.
I can't agree with you both parties are the same. If you're saying they're both awful, each in its own way, we can find common ground.
*If a police officer kills someone who is armed, it's highly likely but not certain the shooting was justified. It's not a perfect indicator, but it's a good one, and the numbers are far less than public perception. I've run the numbers- as I said, it's less than a couple dozen/year.
It's the same performative radicalism we saw among adolescents in the late '60s. There was a similar contingent in pop culture egging them on then, too. It led to enough pressure for the Congress to make a huge blunder and grant the vote to 18-year-olds in 1971. The argument that someone old enough to be drafted should have the vote is bollocks, especially since there was always the probability that the draft would end soon, as it did in 1973, only two years later.
The reason that men were drafted at 18 is that the Army considered them more malleable at that age. This is precisely why 18 year olds shouldn’t have been granted the right to vote.
They should never have been subject to the draft neither.
These individuals have always been around. In the past they were lonely souls who fantasized in basements. Today, the “gift” of the internet has allowed these people to communicate with each other. They strengthen their fantasies collectively and by knowing others are plagued by similar fantasies grow bolder.
So, instead of arriving at common sense they arrive at common non-sense. How do we change this?
@Joe- go after the irrevocably broken mental health system.
I don’t know. Perhaps by keeping children off of social media?
Stop voting for the cause of ALL our problems in America...the republican&democrat PARTY, duh!
Pretty deflationary take.
If you (1) affirm mental illness and (2) say not affirming it is "trans genocide", then (3) the sociopathic fragment of the transgender crowd will want to kill you. That's 3 non-normie factors more than zero.
These subcultures are Satanic. They are also sponsored and nurtured by radical leftists, including those who finance and run the foundations that support antifa, BLM, et al. There's a spiritual dimension to freedom vs. Marxism, including the cultural Marxism of the transgenderist cult.
I was an atheist most of my life, and not predisposed to see things this way, but it's not a matter of "where there's smoke, there's fire." It's "where there's flames, there's fire."
Remember that Marxism supports any actions that weaken the psychological or social system fabrics, even the ideology that comes through school systems and now even infiltrated church systems. It puts the human mind and spirit in an environment of a slow rotting process. Parents then don’t know what to do even if they are aware enough to notice.
I love ya, man, buUut… calling these freaks of nature “radical normie terrorists” is ridiculous.
Coming from a normal background doesn’t mean you’re destined to be normal, and radicalization is sorta self-explanatory…
It used to be in the dark corners of the ‘net, that those seeking to warp the minds of the weak would hide… now, they’re not just on TikTok: they’re everywhere, including here.
Benjamin Spock could be the reason:
"In the 1960s and 1970s, Spock was also blamed for the disorderliness of young people, many of whose parents had been devotees of Baby and Child Care.[13] Vice President Spiro Agnew also blamed Spock for "permissiveness".[13][50] These allegations were enthusiastically embraced by conservative adults, who viewed the rebellious youth of that era with disapproval, referring to them as "the Spock generation""
I agree that my generation (born 1947 - 1955) were raised by Spockian standards: Spoil the rod and spare the child. But an informal survey recently conducted of late 20s - early 30s y/o moms revealed that not one of them ever heard of Dr. Benjamin Spock.
The point? The Spock effect is well in the rearview mirror today. Something else has taken its place - and I believe we can easily guess what that is.
My mom was one of them…and spare the rod she did NOT.
No mom in my military neighborhood, I grew up on Army bases around the world, spared the rod even if you weren't her child, they all had this unspoken agreement...no child's behind is left unpunished.
@Nard- or the wooden spoon. Or the flyswatter. Or....
Well, moms might not ever heard of Benjamin Spock but their teachers could have. After all, his book was one of thr best selling books of the 20th century: "selling 500,000 copies in the six months after its initial publication and 50 million by the time of Spock's death in 1998"
The republican&democrat PARTY?
@Lebo- you keep spewing that but you offer no alternatives.
Yes kittynana, I keep telling you every time you say that to read my book and you will read about the alternatives to the insanity of the republican&democrat PARTY.
"The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon.
Thank you kittynana for allowing me to plug my book, "The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon, by me Lebo Von Lo~Debar.
"The Separation of Corporation and State" subtitled "Common Sense and the Two-Party Crisis" available on Amazon, by me Lebo Von Lo~Debar.
Kirk's murderer came from a 2 parent household. I wonder how many of these criminals came from one parent households
So, what are you saying? Ban 2-parent households?
Public schools and the internet. That's the answer. And the media calling everyone Nazis.
When talking to some leftists, I suspect moderate ones but highly informed, they are ok with critical theory being taught all across America. They don’t acknowledge the effect it’s having, and somehow do not want to see how it is an existential threat. They defend it like it’s any other liberal idea that should not be suppressed, while acknowledging conservative ideas shouldn’t be suppressed either. However, when an enemy invades your country you fight them. Critical theory is an enemy, and therefore free speech should not apply. What am I missing?
That's why the Left call the moderates who support them "useful idiots."
It's true.. critical theory eventually results at a minimum numbing people to the idea that the country is irredeemable. When every fault in history or status is made out to be uniquely American and exaggerated, the "Burn it down!" phrase becomes more acceptable. I'm starting to think there really is a lot of U.S. citizens out there who don't want this country to exist anymore. Wild. You'd think there'd be an iota of appreciation for what it affords them. They have no idea. I think this solely rests on the college institutions for fostering this radicalism, with the biased media offering a helping hand.
A related question, should an illiberal ideology like wokeism and critical theory be afforded the same freedom of speech as a liberal ideology? Because illiberal ideologies do not ‘return the favor’
Yes…but they should NOT be adopted as absolute truths by our education and policy institutions. Mental illness shouldn’t be affirmed, and racism shouldn’t be an appropriate state or federal policy.
I mostly agree, but by affording illiberal ideologies the freedom of speech rights that they don't uphold themselves, kind of gives them a big advantage. I think any illiberal ideology has no place in a classically liberal civilization, and should be outlawed. Otherwise, there is no defense mechanism - which is how we got here. (At this point it’s virtually impossible to do anything about the university system imo)
It’s a slippery slope. Who defines what is illiberal? Who defines what is acceptable?
We could simply outlaw any ideology that does not engage in debate.
While your thrust is different, you and Charlie Kirk are of the same high caliber when it comes to engaging the culture. I pray that God will keep His hand of protection upon you and your family in the ever darkening times we live in. Thanks for the work you do.
It takes time for things to change.
There is, of course, no simple answer to crazily violent individuals....they've always been around and always will be no matter how well or badly they were brought up.
But we do need to recognise that in recent decades Western liberal 'individualism' has spun out of control....and into a malign 'what-about-me culture of narcissism. The number of people who have been infected by this run into the millions " Once you are encouraged to view yourself as axiomatically personally blameless, the next step is to look for someone (or something) else to blame for each and every one of your discontents. Re-cast your wonderful self as a 'victim'. Ooh that feels nice!.....now where's my therapist? And who needs to be cancelled? People drunk on their own virtuous self esteem don't like to give 'free speech' to anyone who might challenge them." https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/has-liberalisms-flame-burned-too
It is a mercy then that only a tiny minority of these narcissistic personality types resort to guns to 'express' their sense of 'victimhood'.